~40 responses already!
Will this event also be recorded or live streamed?
We are looking for such possiblilities and have asked around a bit, but so far have not found anyone
volunteering to do it. So we might find such options later, but it has not happened yet.
Volunteers can either post here or contact me directly via mail to erik.sundvall@regionostergotland.se
When registering as participant using the link to the form above there is an option for stating that you can’t participate physically on site but would like to get updates before and presentation material afterwards. If we get a streaming or recording option it will be announced in such an update (and in this forum).
Update March 13: This response is now outdated, remote participation is now the only option see below… (We’ll try to record it also.)
Update: The seminar will be converted from physical to online seminar due to many participants’ and speakers’ current travel restrictions and other COVID-19 related issues.
The same times remain: Thursday March 26, 2020.
- Meeting open for connection & test from 16:00
- Seminar starts at 16:15 and ends at 18:15 CET (Stockholm time)
Links for seminar participation will later be announced via mail to registered participants and in this discussion thread.
A positive side effect of going online is that more participants can join. We had underestimated the interest when booking a room for 50-60. We currently have more than 80 registrations and now expect more.
The registration form (https://forms.gle/1WFepvP1oF8duHEQ9) has been updated with more online-relevant questions, so if you said that you could not participate (but wanted updates & info) then you can now use the update link in your confirmation email to say that you e.g. want to participate online.
A preliminary seminar agenda draft is available and will continue to be updated.
For avoidance of doubt:
16:15 - 18:15PM CET
15:15 - 17:15PM GMT/UTC
Find your starting time here
Connection for seminar backup plan if primary fails
*There are 170+ registered now, which is over the capacity of the originally intended openEHR zoom stream so we got an offer from Nedap to host and this is the backup plan (from Linköping University) in case Nedap Zoom described above crashes.
(Skype for Business users, note link by the end.)
Topic: Practical tools and methods for clinical decision- and process-support
Time: Mar 26, 2020 16:00 Stockholm
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Again. note that this is the backup plan if the primary plan crashes
2.15am. Ouch, I’ll watch the replay
Hi Erik,
the openEHR Zoom account is setup and available (as of last Friday) - the details have been given to all Board members, Jill our admin and the program leads.
Updated connection links and instructions
We now got an offer from Nedap to be primary host and have switched the liu-se alternative to become a backup plan (again).
Primary meeting alternative
You are invited to a Zoom webinar.
When: Mar 26, 2020 04:00 PM Amsterdam/Stockholm (16:00 CET Login/setup, 16:15 CET Presentation starts)
Topic: Practical tools and methods for clinical decision- and process-support
Please click the link below to join the webinar via Zoom app or via modern web browser:
Alternatively you can join using the search bar in Skype for business with 281-953-142@lync.zoom.us
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Backup meeting alternative (only if the above crashes/fails)
https://liu-se.zoom.us/j/277726484 see details and Skype/phone/SIP alternatives below
This is a summary of the responses to the registration question:
“If you already have some questions or things you’d like to be described, or examples of process related clinical needs/problems that you think IT-systems should handle better, then feel free to add them here”
- Distributed process support
- How could the interoperability between different LIMS in different laboratories be better? Or use the same standards in different systems.
- The state of tooling around GDL. Why GDL and not e.g. BPMN and the supporting standards?
- Guideline modeling that enables an application to continually evaluate results and update the guideline.
- The diagnostic process. IMHO, problem-oriented records allow for the most useful structuring of information, not least for diagnosis support. How could we best represent this process? How would you design such a system? Inevitably, problems need to be refined, merged, debated, or even excluded after previous statement. It would be invaluable to audit this process, reviewing each step of the decision: data gathering and interpretation, problem generation, hipothesis formulation and their investigation. The late Lawrence Weed had this in mind from the very beginning. Thank you for your time. Any help will be very appreciated.
- Open EHR should have an online free course module to learn details about it.
- Digital-Twin based EHR updating plus Immersive Analytics for Rapid Diagnosis.
- How is patient generated data, such as wearable sensors, health monitoring devices and such integrated into the clinical decision support systems
Feel free to add new questions below in this forum thread during and after the presentation. We won’t have time to answer all of them “live” but maybe in written form here later.
REMINDER: The connection info has been updated, see post above this one…
My question concerns the CE marking of medical devices; has this been an issue to systems/functions such as NEWS calculation utilising GDL?
So how are we going to share taskplans on CKM and how is granularity handled?
It seems that current developments are very use case specific…
Well, for sharing, they are archetypes so it can be done like that. In terms of content, it will be a community research exercise to work out a good way to write re-usable sub-plans, and how to recombine to larger full work plans.
We have concepts like ‘sub-plan’, and separated plans, plan linking etc, also more granular elements (even single ‘Task groups’ containing a few Tasks), so the technical elements are probably ok; the real question is doing the modelling in such a way and then managing libraries of various general / less general plans. This will take some time and experience with a lot of people doing experiments, I think!
To what extent do the GDL and Task Planning parts of OpenEHR overlap in terms of what they try to solve?
/TOmas Lundqvist
@danielle.santosalves Are the Brazil maternity models available? IE could anyone build a maternity system off of the back of them?
TP plans have small decision ‘fragments’ all through them e.g. is the patient hypertensive, critical BP, or normal, and so on, within Task structures. GDL is rule sets, so essentially larger chunks of decision logic.
We are now working on a next generation of things that integrates the underlying ‘decision’ part to be the same for GDL and Task Planning.
Interested to hear how you describe the difference between SMART on FHIR and OpenEHR Cds apps.
We would like to like apps for the cancer quality registers, who can we contact.
Hi Torbjörn Eles, you can contact me at rong.chen@cambio.se