Everybody,
The module in the CKM for visualising arketypes as mind maps - is it open source and how can we get access to it? Is there a plan to in
Everybody,
The module for visualising archetypes as mind maps in the CKM - is it open source and if so how can one get access to it?
It would be great to have this integrated with the archetype editor - has anyone attempted to do this?
Regards,
Jostein Ven
senior adviser,
Norwegian Directorate of Health
(Apologies if this e-mail reaches you twice - had some problems sending this to the list)
Hi Jostein,
Sebastian can confirm this but I understand that CKM uses an open
Freemind viewer browser component.
There is also some branched archetype editor source code that was
developed by one of Sebastian's students to add mindmapping facility.
Unfortunately this is now very out of date with the Trunk code and
relies on a closed .Net coding component with a per-developer licence
so cannot formally be part of the openEHR development. If someone was
interested in doing this work, however, I am sure Ocean could find a
way to assist.
I wonder if adding this functionality directly to AE is in any case
the sensible approach. it might be interesting to see if someone could
develop a simple web-service that would take an uploaded archetype and
display the result in the Freemind browser.
Might be a good student project.
Ian
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Hi Jostein,
Sebastian can confirm this but I understand that CKM uses an open
Freemind viewer browser component.
Essentially yes, it is the Freemind Flash Browser.
The source files for Freemind is a fairly simple XML as you can see when
you download the freemind files for the archetype (There is a link
underneath the mindmap).
This can also be imported by e.g. XMind.
There is also some branched archetype editor source code that was
developed by one of Sebastian's students to add mindmapping facility.
Unfortunately this is now very out of date with the Trunk code and
relies on a closed .Net coding component with a per-developer licence
so cannot formally be part of the openEHR development. If someone was
interested in doing this work, however, I am sure Ocean could find a
way to assist.
This uses a different technology though and as you said a nice .NET
library that unfortunately is not open source.
Also, this code makes direct use of fields in the Archetype Editor (i.e.
not from a parsed ADL file or the like) and thus is not directly usable.
Sebastian
We have included in LinkEHR a mindmap (freemind) generic
transformation based on AOM and we also use Freemind Flash Browser to
visualize it. Visualization is not the same as the one in CKM (as I
told is generic, see this example http://i.imgur.com/FlLFY.png) and if
you pass our LinkEHR reference model documentation object you can
generate a 'prettier' one (as we already do with HL7 CDA or EN13606,
see this example http://i.imgur.com/YykuX.png). We have been asked
recently to open this part of the code (Java) and we are going to do
this in a short time.
Hi Thomas
We have many times discussed, that for physicians and others, whop are not very experienced in coded transcript
Is the MindMap like visualisation very helpfull to understand and follow dependencies of Archetypes, and we would
Like to support the approach to utilise at lest Freemind browser fro the CKM
Thank you
Ing. Peter Linhardt, PhD.,
Výskumné centrum STU
Riaditeľ
Slovenská technická univerzita v Bratislave
Vazovova 5
812 43 Bratislava
tel. +421 918 669 121
peter.linhardt@stuba.sk
www.stuba.sk
Think environment before you print.
Hi Peter,
Sorry Peter, I am not sure I understand your request.
Are you suggesting a change to the CKM freemind browser or do you want to integrate CKM mindmaps into the Archetype Editor?
Can you clarify please?
Best regards
Sebastian
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Good morning Sebastian
We are talking two diferent features.
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Integration of freemind mindmap viewer to CKM to visualise the archetype (possibly also template ), which is I guess an easy task
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Integration of MindMap into editor for creating archetype form in MinMap created archetype. I guess thjs is much more complex and
Expensive feature of the editor
I am led by the level of understanding for non IT staff, dealing with helath informatics and archetypes, because I have experienced, that
Visualisation of relation between elemnets of archetype in the MindMap environment gives much better overview, understanding
And level of accpetation for the helth professionals, managers and other people, involved in transofrmation of helath record form
dB environment into archetype based solutions.
Best regards
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I completely agree. I became a big fan of well-designed mindmaps (they are not all the same) after seeing Sebastian’s great work on the CKM (at least in part driven by clinician requests, so they helped solve their own problem as well). Some thoughts on a recent blog-post.
- thomas