[NEW][ARCHETYPE][BRAINSTORM] Fracture

Hi there,

This is my first try at creating an archetype. I have read the Building
Archetypes PDF Heather kindly posted a couple of days ago (what great
timing!). Tried to read the Reference Model and all that but find it rather
techinical.

So here I am dwelving into the unknown.

Background: I'm currently involved in an orthopaedic study: Open Fracture of
the Long Bones with a local university where they enter a set of data into a
paper-based performa. Any patient that comes through the ER with a fracture
of the long bones (humerus, radius, ulna, femur, tibia, fibula) is qualified
for this study. The patient will be followed-up for a year after discharge
(calculated from the date of admission), but if he has a repeat procedure
that requires admission, this data will be captured by the study. Outcomes
are summarized at 6 month and 1 year interval exactly.

So last Friday, we had a second meeting to finalize what the study required
in terms of data capture and we used FreeMind for that. I've attached the
file to this post.

I think from this study, I can at least build the Fracture Archetype which
I've searched in the repository and there was none. Other archetype might
already be there eg Demographic Data and Prescription. I'll take a closer
look at that later. For now, this post is about the Fracture Archetype. If
that is indeed the right thing to do.

Any inputs would
http://www.nabble.com/file/p18309358/Open%2BFracture%2Bof%2BLong%2BBones%2BStudy.mm
Open+Fracture+of+Long+Bones+Study.mm be greatly appreciated.

Thanks for reading!

Warm regards,

Nik Nizan
Montoque SB
Malaysia

Hi Nik,

Great mind map. You've outlined all the issues you need to cover very
extensively.

I think the issue that is being missed here is that all the information you
want to record is not ideal for one archetype.

This is the ideal situation for a template comprised of multiple reusable
archetypes of which, many of which you'll be pleased to know have already
been developed to some degree.

Template specifications are currently being formalized for publication on
the openEHR website. So if you go looking at present there is not a lot of
information currently about them. I think that this is the best place to
keep an eye out for developments -
http://www.openehr.org/wiki/display/spec/openEHR+Templates+and+Specialised+A
rchetypes.

I suggest that you take a look at the template developed for the NHS around
examination of a patient presenting to the Emergency Department with limb
pain or injury -
http://svn.openehr.org/knowledge/TAGS/dev-uk-nhs/Lorenzo_3.5/pub/ContentRele
ase-1.0.1/templates/gen/html/Emergency-LimbPainOrBoneInjury.v1draft.html.
Each separate archetype is in bold, black text.

This particular template was one of the first developed early 2007, and the
template comprises 42 separate archetypes to provide the full clinical
context that was required (but not including demographics and provider
details which were regarded as being kept separately and not part of this
clinical modelling task).

The archetypes used are below, each to specify a single small concept, and
which when combined together can be used to represent a task or activity. I
expect that the archetypes required for your work would be largely similar.

exam-abdomen
exam_heart
exam_lung
oedema
symptom-pain
adverse
check_list-condition-third_party
check_list-condition
check_list-medication
check_list-surgical_procedure
problem-diagnosis
problem
disposition
imaging
intravenous_fluid_order
medication
non_drug_therapy
procedure
referral
disposition
gas_administration
imaging
intravenous_fluids
medication
referral
body_weight
CNS_exam_brief
exam-heart
exam-lung
Musculoskeletal_examination
personal_and_social_history
placeholder
pregnancy_test
story
substance_use-alcohol
substance_use-tobacco.
substance_use
emergency_assessment
general_investigations
review_of_systems
vital_signs
free_text
These archetypes are amongst those on
http://svn.openehr.org/knowledge/TAGS/dev-uk-nhs/Lorenzo_3.5/pub/ContentRele
ase-1.0.1/archetypes/gen/html/index_en.html

You might be particularly interested in how the injury has been modeled
fairly generically here. The musculoskeletal examination OBSERVATION
assumes no particular outcome, although a fracture is certainly one of the
possible outcomes. And in addition, I would suggest that this archetype
would ideally be broken up into separate reusable cluster archetypes each
focused on inspection, palpation, and movement, and each probably
specialized for limbs and/or joints.

There are a lot of other templates displayed at the NHS website that might
give you more of an idea - the format is not ideal, but hopefully can give
you some more insight.

Hope this helps

Cheers

Heather

Hi Nik,

Great mind map. You've outlined all the issues you need to cover very
extensively.
...
  
I suggest that you take a look at the template developed for the NHS around
examination of a patient presenting to the Emergency Department with limb
pain or injury -
http://svn.openehr.org/knowledge/TAGS/dev-uk-nhs/Lorenzo_3.5/pub/ContentRele
ase-1.0.1/templates/gen/html/Emergency-LimbPainOrBoneInjury.v1draft.html.
Each separate archetype is in bold, black text.
  

Hello Heather,

being very new to archetypes, templates, I had a look anyway at this
link. I have to admit that I cannot map any of the bold, black text
lines to one of the archetypes mentioned in the list below. Probably
this is also due to the fact that I don't know the meaning of the icons
used. Is there a legenda somewhere available? As an aside, maybe a nice
feature of future templates visualized in html might be making the
currently 'bold, black text' :-/ behave as links to the archetypes used.

This particular template was one of the first developed early 2007, and the
template comprises 42 separate archetypes to provide the full clinical
context that was required (but not including demographics and provider
details which were regarded as being kept separately and not part of this
clinical modelling task).
  

Can you explain why some archetypes (e.g. exam-heart, exam-lung,
medication, referral, medication, imaging) are listed multiple times
below? To me it's paradoxical that a maximum-data structure is used more
than once... Maybe it should have been a tree-list instead of a flat list?

Thanks for all your explanations on these lists,

Roger

The archetypes used are below, each to specify a single small concept, and
which when combined together can be used to represent a task or activity. I
expect that the archetypes required for your work would be largely similar.

exam-abdomen
exam_heart
exam_lung
oedema
symptom-pain
adverse
check_list-condition-third_party
check_list-condition
check_list-medication
check_list-surgical_procedure
problem-diagnosis
problem
disposition
imaging
intravenous_fluid_order
medication
non_drug_therapy
procedure
referral
disposition
gas_administration
imaging
intravenous_fluids
medication
referral
body_weight
CNS_exam_brief
exam-heart
exam-lung
Musculoskeletal_examination
personal_and_social_history
placeholder
pregnancy_test
story
substance_use-alcohol
substance_use-tobacco.
substance_use
emergency_assessment
general_investigations
review_of_systems
vital_signs
free_text
These archetypes are amongst those on
http://svn.openehr.org/knowledge/TAGS/dev-uk-nhs/Lorenzo_3.5/pub/ContentRele
ase-1.0.1/archetypes/gen/html/index_en.html
  

...

Hi Roger,

Comments inline re your specific issues.

Your difficulties are a perfect example of the confusion that can happen
if we have groups of archetypes scattered here, there and everywhere.
And templates that use archetypes from different sources.
These templates were created at a time when these archetypes were the
only ones available, and there was only one or two places to source them.
This situation is rapidly changing.

In response to this we have been focussing on archetype governance (in
the first instance). Next week we will be opening up the new openEHR
knowledge repository to the list - it will become a central source of
archetypes for download, and be the focus for international review. It
is a complex product in its first release, so further sophistication
will come, but will be a huge step forward in coordinating archetype
development and publication.

Regards

Heather

Roger Erens wrote:

  
I suggest that you take a look at the template developed for the NHS
around

examination of a patient presenting to the Emergency Department with limb
pain or injury -
http://svn.openehr.org/knowledge/TAGS/dev-uk-nhs/Lorenzo_3.5/pub/ContentRele
ase-1.0.1/templates/gen/html/Emergency-LimbPainOrBoneInjury.v1draft.html.
Each separate archetype is in bold, black text.
  

Hello Heather,

being very new to archetypes, templates, I had a look anyway at this
link. I have to admit that I cannot map any of the bold, black text
lines to one of the archetypes mentioned in the list below. Probably
this is also due to the fact that I don't know the meaning of the icons
used.

There is no doubt that this format could be refined considerably. There
has been a lot of discussion around the optimal way to display the
templates without the Template Designer. At the time that this work was
done, the HTML view was developed as a tool for us to walk and talk
clinicians through the models in face to face meetings - so with the aid
of some guidance, it filled the gap in the short term.

Is there a legenda somewhere available?
As an aside, maybe a nice
feature of future templates visualized in html might be making the
currently 'bold, black text' :-/ behave as links to the archetypes used.
  

Understood and agreed that at least it would assist - I'm not sure that
the way forward here has been resolved.
In the meantime I have manually linked the template through to the
current NHS pool of archetypes - see*
http://www.openehr.org/wiki/display/healthmod/HTML+Template+example* .
The match is not exact and I may have picked the wrong version of an
archetype if there were a few to pick from, but I hope it will help give
you more perspective between the template and the archetype:-)

This particular template was one of the first developed early 2007, and the
template comprises 42 separate archetypes to provide the full clinical
context that was required (but not including demographics and provider
details which were regarded as being kept separately and not part of this
clinical modelling task).
  

Can you explain why some archetypes (e.g. exam-heart, exam-lung,
medication, referral, medication, imaging) are listed multiple times
below? To me it's paradoxical that a maximum-data structure is used more
than once... Maybe it should have been a tree-list instead of a flat list?
  

And now that I've looked at the html template in detail, I think there
has been some changes to this list anyway. I retrieved this list from a
spreadsheet that was created when the template was first made, but I
think the template has moved on...;-(
But more detail on that list helps - sorry, I tried to keep it simple,
but it only created (quite understandably in retrospect) confusion - see
below, there are clusters and observations with the same/similar names.
  
CLUSTER exam-abdomen.v2draft
CLUSTER exam_heart.v1
CLUSTER exam_lung.v1
CLUSTER oedema.v2draft
CLUSTER symptom-pain.v3
EVALUATION adverse.v1
EVALUATION check_list-condition-third_party.v2
EVALUATION check_list-condition.v2
EVALUATION check_list-medication.v2
EVALUATION check_list-surgical_procedure.v2
EVALUATION problem-diagnosis.v2
EVALUATION problem.v2
INSTRUCTION disposition.v2draft
INSTRUCTION imaging.v2
INSTRUCTION intravenous_fluid_order.v1draft
INSTRUCTION medication.v2draft
INSTRUCTION non_drug_therapy.v1draft
INSTRUCTION procedure.v2draft
INSTRUCTION referral.v1
ITEM_TREE disposition.v2draft
ITEM_TREE gas_administration.v1draft
ITEM_TREE imaging.v3
ITEM_TREE intravenous_fluids.v1draft
ITEM_TREE medication.v2draft
ITEM_TREE referral.v1
OBSERVATION body_weight.v1
OBSERVATION CNS_exam_brief.v1draft
OBSERVATION exam-heart.v1
OBSERVATION exam-lung.v1
OBSERVATION Musculoskeletal_examination.v1draft
OBSERVATION personal_and_social_history.v3
OBSERVATION placeholder.v1
OBSERVATION pregnancy_test.v1
OBSERVATION story.v2
OBSERVATION substance_use-alcohol.v2
OBSERVATION substance_use-tobacco.v2
OBSERVATION substance_use.v2
SECTION emergency_assessment.v2draft
SECTION general_investigations.v1draft
SECTION review_of_systems.v2
SECTION vital_signs.v2
CLUSTER free_text.v1

Hi Nik

I have loaded the map into Mindomo and sent you a link. We are looking at getting a licence for this for the teams building archetypes so I would be pleased to have your opinion. For people unable to read MM files - here is an HTML link.

http://www.mindomo.com/view.htm?m=165b747ad8964fe7b7ef94776d7b5f53

Cheers, Sam

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