Step by step Achetype editing

Technical (archive)
1

Hi all,
I've just started browsing and investigating two existing archetype
editors,
hardly could I find a step by step tutorial for creating Archetypes
(and then Templates)
Is there any recommended resource?

Regards
paria

PhD Student
IDC | Interaction Design Collegium
Department of Computing Science and Engineering
Chalmers University of Technology

Email: hajar.kashfi@chalmers.se
Office:+46 (0)31 7725407
Mobile Phone: +46 (0)707222815
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412 96 Göteborg, Sweden
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2

AFAIK there isn't a step-by-step tutorial. There are many resources on
the website and I suppose they can be a bit daunting to navigate.

There is an ongoing discussion on the openEHR Clinical list on deciding
how to select an archetype type to begin creating a specific archetype.

To get you started you might refer to this discussion and the very nice
presentation that Gerard Freriks just published on the openEHR website.

Discussion:
http://lists.chime.ucl.ac.uk/mailman/private/openehr-clinical/2008-June/000894.html

There are related threads on this so you'll need to read several.

Presentation: http://tinyurl.com/6h2vs8

HTH,
--Tim

3

Hi Paria,

The Ocean archetype editor help files are not too bad as a 'technical'
guide and these other pages might be helpful

openEHR Entry Types FAQs
http://www.openehr.org/shared-resources/faqs/entrytypes.html

What reference model class to use when?
http://www.openehr.org/wiki/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=786529

and, of course, look at existing examples
http://www.archetypes.com.au/archetypefinder/archetypefinder

Although you may find the discussion pointed to by Tim to be of
interest, in my experience, beginners often find the Evaluation or
Observation debate confusing because there are many grey-area examples
in clinical practice. I take the view that much of this debate,
though fun, can be distracting, since other than the clear cases where
a clinical concept demands the sophisticated, precise timing/state
features of the Observation class, the consequences of mis-labelling
e.g a Barthel Score as Evaluation, rather than Observation, are almost
nil.

One other useful tip, which the 'professionals' find very useful is to
use mindmapping software such as Freemind to setup and refine the
basic archetype structure, before replicating in the archetype editor.

Have fun,

Ian
Dr Ian McNicoll
office / fax +44(0)141 560 4657
mobile +44 (0)775 209 7859
skype ianmcnicoll

Consultant - Ocean Informatics ian.mcnicoll@oceaninformatics.com
Consultant - IRIS GP Accounts

Member of BCS Primary Health Care Specialist Group – www.phcsg.org

4

Hi Paria.
I´m right now trying to write a tutorial for the Ocean informatics archetype editor. My knowledge of archetypes was zero some week ago, so yet I have no complete tutorial.

I believe the tutorial will be some gathered material of different threads out there, plus some examples on how to step-by-step build an archetype.

You are welcome to mail questions to me. If I can help you, I would be glad. If not, I get some good ideas on what I need to include in a tutorial. :slight_smile:

Possibly I can start on a tutorial for the template builder too, but thats a later question right now.

Richard Andersson
Student
Department of Informatics
University of Lund
This summer on Department of IT-strategy
University Hospital of Lund
richard.andersson@skane.se

5

Great!
Actually I tried to study papers and presentation in the website, to be honest, not all of them, but what I found was a background knowledge of openEHR and two archetype editors that I already had found in MIE2008 ,maybe more in detail this time.
Last week, I tried to install both Editors on my Mac. For LIU one, I had no problem but I couldn’t find a Mac version for OceanInformatic version, hence, I installed a Virtual Box, a XP on it and after some tricky processes I could install and run the second editor.
As a part of my PhD studies, I’m responsible to find out whether openEHR archetypes are feasible and applicable for our case or not- seems it is getting more and more popular as a standard model- however, the first step for using them in a real project is to make end users- clinicians- use an editor to create archetypes, templates and so on. but how to start?
As far as I found, there’s no completely helpful tutorial for those editors yet. Helps sound interesting at the first glance but when one , as a newcomer to these concepts, wants to start creating a project, an Archetype, problems rise.
as for myself, I was just scramble to find what I should when I want to create an archetype for a specific disease. maybe the problem is that I’m not a medical expert, I told myself, but yesterday when I checked the discussion in medical group that Tim sent me, I found it’s also hard for clinicians to decide about some components,…well, maybe not in the start point. for me confusions exist:
should I start with a composition? then go for sections and entries?
couldn’ find it up to this moment!

If you are familiar with OWL, I was expecting something like Pizza Finder tutorial for Archetypes as well. a Step by step tutorial, including a sample case.
should we expect one who wants just browse and find if these editors are usable enough for her/him to know any details about openEHR architecture, specifications ,etc?
Pizza finder tutorial, for instance, at the end carried me to this point: “well, now I feel OWL is worth learning, going to details. OWL Ontologies are what I was searching for!”
Anyway, that tutorial would be very helpful for me too. maybe, I even can share my experience through this way

-paria

Hi Paria.
I´m right now trying to write a tutorial for the Ocean informatics archetype editor. My knowledge of archetypes was zero some week ago, so yet I have no complete tutorial.

I believe the tutorial will be some gathered material of different threads out there, plus some examples on how to step-by-step build an archetype.

You are welcome to mail questions to me. If I can help you, I would be glad. If not, I get some good ideas on what I need to include in a tutorial. :slight_smile:

Possibly I can start on a tutorial for the template builder too, but thats a later question right now.

Richard Andersson
Student
Department of Informatics
University of Lund
This summer on Department of IT-strategy
University Hospital of Lund
richard.andersson@skane.se

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Hi all,
I’ve just started browsing and investigating two existing archetype
editors,
hardly could I find a step by step tutorial for creating Archetypes
(and then Templates)
Is there any recommended resource?

Regards
paria

PhD Student
IDC | Interaction Design Collegium
Department of Computing Science and Engineering
Chalmers University of Technology

Email: hajar.kashfi@chalmers.se
Office:+46 (0)31 7725407
Mobile Phone: +46 (0)707222815
Postal adress:
IT University of Göteborg
412 96 Göteborg, Sweden
Visit: Room Simula B, House Svea, Campus Lindholmen

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IDC | Interaction Design Collegium
Department of Computing Science and Engineering
Chalmers University of Technology

Email: hajar.kashfi@chalmers.se
Office:+46 (0)31 7725407
Mobile Phone: +46 (0)707222815
Postal adress:
IT University of Göteborg
412 96 Göteborg, Sweden
Visit: Room Simula B, House Svea, Campus Lindholmen

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These links are of a great help!
Tanks to Ian

Hi Paria,

The Ocean archetype editor help files are not too bad as a ‘technical’
guide and these other pages might be helpful

openEHR Entry Types FAQs
http://www.openehr.org/shared-resources/faqs/entrytypes.html

What reference model class to use when?
http://www.openehr.org/wiki/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=786529

and, of course, look at existing examples
http://www.archetypes.com.au/archetypefinder/archetypefinder

Although you may find the discussion pointed to by Tim to be of
interest, in my experience, beginners often find the Evaluation or
Observation debate confusing because there are many grey-area examples
in clinical practice. I take the view that much of this debate,
though fun, can be distracting, since other than the clear cases where
a clinical concept demands the sophisticated, precise timing/state
features of the Observation class, the consequences of mis-labelling
e.g a Barthel Score as Evaluation, rather than Observation, are almost
nil.

One other useful tip, which the ‘professionals’ find very useful is to
use mindmapping software such as Freemind to setup and refine the
basic archetype structure, before replicating in the archetype editor.

Have fun,

Ian
Dr Ian McNicoll
office / fax +44(0)141 560 4657
mobile +44 (0)775 209 7859
skype ianmcnicoll

Consultant - Ocean Informatics ian.mcnicoll@oceaninformatics.com
Consultant - IRIS GP Accounts

Member of BCS Primary Health Care Specialist Group – www.phcsg.org

Hi all,

I’ve just started browsing and investigating two existing archetype

editors,

hardly could I find a step by step tutorial for creating Archetypes

(and then Templates)

Is there any recommended resource?

AFAIK there isn’t a step-by-step tutorial. There are many resources on

the website and I suppose they can be a bit daunting to navigate.

There is an ongoing discussion on the openEHR Clinical list on deciding

how to select an archetype type to begin creating a specific archetype.

To get you started you might refer to this discussion and the very nice

presentation that Gerard Freriks just published on the openEHR website.

Discussion:

http://lists.chime.ucl.ac.uk/mailman/private/openehr-clinical/2008-June/000894.html

There are related threads on this so you’ll need to read several.

Presentation: http://tinyurl.com/6h2vs8

HTH,

–Tim

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Health Informatics Research & Development Services

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Department of Computing Science and Engineering
Chalmers University of Technology

Email: hajar.kashfi@chalmers.se
Office:+46 (0)31 7725407
Mobile Phone: +46 (0)707222815
Postal adress:
IT University of Göteborg
412 96 Göteborg, Sweden
Visit: Room Simula B, House Svea, Campus Lindholmen