As part of further exploration of the problem space discussed in this topic , we’ve run into question on clinical semantics that we can’t answer ourselves, so I’d like to ask the community for their opinions and observations: We know it’s fairly common to use the phrase “heart rate” to name measurem…

Hi Silje As a clinical member of this community, I’ll share my point of view on this issue. In clinical practice, arterial pulse rate measurements are commonly used to infer the heart rate. Other than that, I can’t find any similarities between both concepts, and would thus recommend modeling them…

Hi Silje People do all sorts of strange things, so inevitably, someone, somewhere, will use the term ‘pulse’ when actually referring to ‘ventricular rate’. I cannot think of any consistent clinical scenarios or processes where this may happen. Does that matter from a modelling perspective? If some…

Here a reference: Blockquote * Radial-apical deficit: this is important to assess because each ventricular contraction may not be sufficiently strong enough to transmit a pulse to the radial artery and palpating only the radial artery can miss tachycardia." :speech_balloon:2 - Atrial Fibrillatio…

[image] Leuschner: In clinical practice, arterial pulse rate measurements are commonly used to infer the heart rate. Other than that, I can’t find any similarities between both concepts, and would thus recommend modeling them as different archetypes. I fully endorse this statement. One of the…

Thanks for re-opening this discussion @Silje, as I think this is does require quite careful consideration, and thanks to the others contributors on the thread. I doubt if there is much disagreement that physiologically (or from a biomedical ontology pov) , these concepts are quite different Elec…

I have just spoken to professor Hisdal OUH - Scientists (ous-research.no) in my hospital, and he’s quite clear that we should represent heart rate and pulse on scientific grounds, as separate concepts. The pulse tells us more than the heart rate (sorry for my layman English on the medical phrases)…

Practical semantics of "heart rate" and "pulse"

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varntzen (Vebjørn Arntzen) 3 June 2024 09:41 8

See the proposed solution in the other thread: https://discourse.openehr.org/t/heartbeat-and-pulse/5092/26

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Practical semantics of "heart rate" and "pulse"

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