Hi Heath, Thomas,
My experience is that HL7 v3 is an open standard and OpenEHR is proprietary
(as owned by the OpenEHR foundation holding the copyrights, albeit I
understand that work is underway to sort that out).
William
Hi William,
You’ve got me confused a bit.
From the http://www.hl7.org/legal/ippolicy.cfm :
"…
This authorization is provided only during the years when the appropriate HL7 Organizational Membership dues are paid, and if and only if:
- HL7 is clearly identified as publisher and holder of the copyright; and,…"
So if openEHR is proprietary because the foundation is holding the copyright, is not HL7 the same according to the statement above?
Kind regards
Seref
Correction: HL7 is open, although requires a small fee for use; openEHR is an open and free specification. Neither are proprietary; proprietary essentially means ‘not openly published and usable’. That does not apply to either HL7 or openEHR.
- thomas
Right - I forgot to say: copyright always has to be held somewhere. Copyright has nothing to do with proprietariness - go see W3C specs - all open, all copyrighted (to a responsible open organisation).
- thomas
Ar this stage membership is open to anyone for both HL7 and OpenEHR. Hence they are both open. Difference is that HL7 is an SDO and OpenEHR a community. But yes both have their copyright approaches. I have not gone through each of them in detail. But as a user of both platforms it does not make a difference, in contrast to what Heath said.
William
Hi William,
I think you may have misread who wrote what. The assertion that HL7 is proprietary was made by Fred Trotter, not by Heath.
Peter
fred trotter wrote:
...
Having said that, HL7 RIM is a proprietary ontology/model and OpenEHR, is
not.
William Goossen wrote:
How can anyone say that HL7 is open in any fashion? You are not free
to distribute it outside of your organization except in small parts so
that the specifications cannot reproduced.
See the paragraph immediately preceding the one previously quoted here:
"HL7 CORPORATE/ORGANIZATIONAL MEMBERS are authorized to:
reproduce and distribute Material on an internal basis solely for
use within their organization;
reproduce and distribute excerpts of Material (not entire domains
or chapters) to any customers of a product or service implementing
those Material, provided that the HL7 Access database may not be
included, either in whole or in part, in any product intended for
direct or indirect commercial resale;
use excerpts of Material to create customized implementation guides; and
use Material in the development of software applications and
messaging systems for direct use or distribution without additional
licensing fees."
There is NOTHING open about this, fee paid or not.
--Tim
Hi Tim
HL7 Twittered about making things more openly available the other
day....does anyone have the link?
Cheers, Sam
Hi Sam,
You might have been thinking about this:
www.healthcareitnews.com/news/hl7-makes-ip-freely-available-ehrs
and
https://www.hl7.org/store/index.cfm?item=DAMFP
Klaus