Since next MedInfo is in Brazil (near Uruguay) I’ll be attending for sure. I also might present a paper or two and want to propose an openEHR related tutorial.
Is other people planning to present openEHR papers or tutorials? It would be great if we can coordinate tutorials (and topics) together so we can have our “openEHR day” at MedInfo.
What do you think?
We have 1 year to plan this, and that’s not a lot of time!
I hope we can join forces and do something nice for the south american openEHR community. We are eager to learn from others that already have openEHR working in the real world, and learn from their success and failures.
Great to hear from you and your plans for Medinfo 2015. I plan to come for the meeting and I am sure a lot of others do too. A group of openEHR implementers will be meeting in Istanbul before MIE on the Saturday afternoon (venue to be decided).
I would hope that there will be sufficient momentum in Brazil to have a high profile openEHR stream at Medinfo and take a key role in the conference.
By chance, do you have the agendas of the previous openEHR developer’s workshops?
It would be nice to see what has been done, do a little bit of introduction workshops for beginners and do some new cool stuff for skilled openEHR devs.
BTW, maybe a good place to coordinate and share info about ideas would be the openEHR wiki.
I think we should do something similar to the previous workshops for devs, something simple to get newcomers to understand how to work with archetypes in software (parsing, processing, validating data, extracting paths, etc), and more specific topics for skilled openEHR devs (persistence options, REST APIs, querying, reporting, UI generation, …).
I would love to see a hands-on tutorial in which we can program live and help newcomers to pass the first barrier in openEHR software development: lose the fear of archetypes.
Also I would like to know how we want to present this, should we submit the proposals individualy and then organize or should we coordinate and make one proposal with all the workshops/tutorials?
This is exactly the type of environment we are trying to setup with
HANDI-HOPD - see handi-hopd.org.
Although the first outing will be somewhat UK focussed, we are trying
to work to an architecture that will allow the environment to be
cloned and re-packaged for other countries/regions + use cloud-based
Docker/openShift type hosting.
Of course! I should have think of Jussara before. I’ll talk with her and her fellow openEHR.br colleagues to see if we can get this organized.
BTW, just to start the coordination I would like to do a workshop focused on openEHR data store and query. And if there’s interest, another one focused on UI: generation, manipulation, processing, models, etc. (we’re presenting a paper on this topic at the InfoLac congress, this year is in Uruguay! lucky me: http://infolac2014.org/index.php/en/)
I was about to send a message to the lists to coordinate the tutorials topics to minimize overlap.
Thanks for creating the page Shinji! That will help a lot for doing that coordination.
I’ll add a list of topics and anyone can mark his/her preference for giving a tutorial about it, so we can detect collisions.
For the spanish speakers, the MedInfo organization wants to have some tutorials in spanish to encourage the LatAm community to participate in the conference. Also until december they have a preferential price for LatAm colleagues (still pricey but it’s MedInfo :).
Thank you for cooperation. I am working on the developers' workshop
proposal based on the last proposal to MEDINFO2013. Please modify and
add your description for your project.
The Spanish tutorial sounds muy bien.
It would be good to coordinate this and try and get a full range of options available - clinical and technical.
Clearly there are a few people who have already done work in South America who might want to coordinate.
I would hope that we may be able to get a key note if we are able to promote this idea. Perhaps a group of speakers on what they are doing with openEHR under the Foundation banner.
I am very interested to know who will be attending and would like to present on any openEHR activity. I am happy to coordinate and make this list available to anyone interested.
I think we are coordinating this already IMO that’s the point of having the wiki pages and asking colleagues to add content, proposals and comments.
I think the idea of a key note is great, and I want to collaborate in any way I can, but… as you an others may know, I asked several times for endorsement and support (not talking about money) from the foundation on the training side, to standardize the contents, to have a formal way of certification, and spread the standard, but the board went silent. I’m very pragmatic and I don’t know why this is so difficult, for me this is treated in a very political way and should be something technical.
With that being said, for me, talking about training under the foundation banner is at least weird.
Maybe this is not a good place or time to mention this, but is how I honestly feel about the proposal.
I long to see the work I try to do to create awareness about the standard to be supported by the foundation. To be honest, the only support I got is from the Chilean Association of Healthcare Informatics (ACHISA) with whom I’m very thankful because without them I wouldn’t be able to create the first online course 100% about openEHR in spanish and provide it to more than 140 people from 15 countries.
Dear Pablo!
Within IHE wee seem to have a similar situation, "educators" working along providing training, trying to expain to the "institutional layer", asking the institution to take formal measures, so that training and probably even exams and certification are harmonised across subgroups and regions. Over the years something has sunk in, and we may see an IHE "Education" group sometime soon. This however took some years until both educators and "institutional layers" knew why and how they might benefit from each other.
In that way I can understand your experience
So: There seems to be independent multi-site evidence that "education" is a "political" issue.
This may help or not, let us all keep the spirit high!
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I understand the organizational time does not accompanies the time of the community needs.
For me is very odd that in one hand the Foundation wants to spread the standard but in the other do not endorse anyone on the training side.
Educators & trainers want to spread the standard also, and sometimes just saying “the foundation supports us” and have a web page with our name as “endorsed trainers” allows us to access places that we can’t access alone, like government working groups. And training people in government is a great way of having the standard included in call for proposals for projects, and that leads to the industry to catch up. Then the industry will need people to work in delivering tools that implements the standard, and that people needs training, and so on. We can create this virtuous circle but we need help.
For me, training is the best way of spreading the standard and for the openEHR-ES community that seem to work for the last 4 years that I’m giving the course in spanish. And others follow, like the openEHR-BR community, some of them were my students now they have their own openEHR course in portuguese (awesome!).
I’m not sure what’s the formal way of putting these issues under the consideration of the board(s) and get any feedback from them.
"A standard is a document that provides requirements, specifications, guidelines or characteristics that can be used consistently to ensure that materials, products, processes and services are fit for their purpose."
IMO that’s the point of having the wiki pages and asking colleagues to add content, proposals and comments.