Hi! At Karolinska we are a bit confused about how to format/use some things in different forms of the FLAT/SimSDT format. We are testing at least three CDR products that are supposed to support it and at least two (non-openEHR-based) systems that try to use it correctly for exporting/converting for…

I have just uploaded a ‘fixed’ self_reported_data composition as a change request on CKM. That is the only published archetype on CKM that is affected as far as I can tell. There are 3 other non-published archetypes with the same issue I think there is an open question on whether this is, or at le…

The other compositions (all unpublished) are Obstetric history, Draft archetype [Internet]. openEHR Foundation, openEHR Clinical Knowledge Manager [cited: 2023-04-17]. Available from: Clinical Knowledge Manager Advance care, Draft archetype [Internet]. openEHR Foundation, openEHR Clinical Knowledg…

[image] joshua.grisham: “/context/other_context” is expected to have a child ITEM_TREE with node_id = at0001 That can’t be a general rule, it simple doesn’t happen in all archetypes. Options are: instead of ITEM_TREE, to have ITEM_TABLE, ITEM_LIST or ITEM_SINGLE. Instead of at0001 you can h…

That is true Pablo but we agreed (us modellers) many years ago to only use ITEM_TREE and the current AD does not give us the choice (by agreement). There are no CKM archetypes that have other structures now As you say, the actual atCode is not significant.

I know Ian, though not everyone is using AD, in fact other modeling tools allow other structure types, and I can build my own modeling tool that is compliant with the specs and implement all the types; even if the international CKM doesn’t have other structures than trees, that doesn’t prevent…

[image] ian.mcnicoll: On the one hand, strictly speaking, this is not breaking change since the extra atCodes have no impact on run-time / persisted data, this is really an issue only for design-time tooling. OTOH, given the confusion potentially being caused in folks who use web templates and F…

The archetype self_reported_data.v1 is pretty new, so an early breaking change now is better than keeping any of the errors in the archetype. (Especially since the errors cause really bad errors downstream in many tools and platforms as described in this thread) Also a breaking change can better si…

I have tested both EhrBase and Better, and in neither case do the redundant atCodes appear in the canonical data, or cause any other apparent issues. "category": { "_type": "DV_CODED_TEXT", "value": "event", "defining_code": { "_type": "CODE_PHRASE", …

From our perspective what seems to “break” is that we have a template based on openEHR-EHR-COMPOSITION.self_reported_data.v1 where we have added some stuff under /context, and if we make a local copy of this new 1.0.2-alpha revision (but still using the same Archetype ID, openEHR-EHR-COMPOSITION.sel…

The good, the bad and the "Wat?" of current simplified FLAT/SimSDT openEHR exchange format

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erik.sundvall (Erik Sundvall) 18 April 2023 06:36 31

I believe @ian.mcnicoll’s comment in the CKM gives good context and explains some things tings in more detail than some of the posts in this thread, so here is a screenshot:

'Self-reported data' is ready for publication

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