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2019-nCoV_Minimum_Data_Set_Form.xlsx (20.2 KB)
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and UK NHS-111 app
I know the guy who runs that team and will have chat to him
https://www.hps.scot.nhs.uk/web-resources-container/covid-19-risk-areas/
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DHCI - Suspected Covid-19 assessment.v0.zip (208.9 KB)
My latest template. I spoke to Silje and she’d be happy to make this a CKM incubator.
Great. We’ll look into your templates. Ours is at https://gitlab.com/dips-bna/corona-app
Let’s invite @siljelb to the channel.
Thank you. We’ll look into it to see if we adopt all your crazy modelling ideas 
Joke aside :
We’re pretty well aligned on the modelling now. Tomorrow I hope to meet face to face with the infection control group at OUH to discuss their needs and if our current application fill their needs. If yes : we will shape up the models and forms, and prepare a release. This will happen fast.
Tomorrow I have an informal appointment with Silje to discuss the models. Just to be sure we are well enough aligned.
After this we should go public with the information and the clinical models. We might even publish something on the openEHR.org.
I’ll propose the updated symptom archetype. Might be a wee bit of a battle.
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On Tue, 3 Mar 2020, 19:25 Bjørn Næss via openEHR, discourse@openehr.org wrote:
Bjørn Næss SEC member 3 MarchThank you. We’ll look into it to see if we adopt all your crazy modelling ideas
Joke aside :
We’re pretty well aligned on the modelling now. Tomorrow I hope to meet face to face with the infection control group at OUH to discuss their needs and if our current application fill their needs. If yes : we will shape up the models and forms, and prepare a release. This will happen fast.
Tomorrow I have an informal appointment with Silje to discuss the models. Just to be sure we are well enough aligned.
After this we should go public with the information and the clinical models. We might even publish something on the openEHR.org.
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Apologies to spamming you all on a Friday afternoon /evening but something very interesting has been proposed, initially by @bna (Bjorn) .
If you track back through the discussion we have started building the idea of some kind of international template(s) for screening and public health data capture of COVID-19.
some serious conversations are under way in Norway, UK and Slovenia about actually deploying app or apps based as far as possible on a common set of templates.
The main use-case which we feel is compelling is the hospital screening for posssible Covid-19 infection -at admission or outpatients. There has already been a significant incident in Oslo, I understand. Whilst the screening tool could be used for community/ GP / self-assessment - this raises (at least in the UK) significant issues around privacy. data governance, consent and hosting itself, that make it less compelling.
Bjorn and his team and I came up with a screening assessment template that seems to fit pretty well. After a wee bit of discussion with Heather and Vanessa, I am going to make a few changes to that then get it up into a public openEHR CKM incubator in an hour or so. I’m more than happy to see this adopted and adapted. We have to expect local changes.
The second use-case is a a registry type dataset - I am just looking at a WHO data capture form that Better sent over. Clearly we want to line this up as far as possible with the screening assessment.
Anyways!! I thought it better just for now to keep this topic private, just to make sure we feel we can all construct a shared vision of what, might and can be made real, but at some point soon, of course, we should go public.
Ian
Great Ian!
Things have moved fast. One week ago we had this idea and built some prototypes. We’ve demonstrated for two Norwegian hospitals. The feedback indicates a good match.
It’s really a huge possibility to show what openehr are, and how the community may response.
Thank you for following this up!
We don’t have a live CDR but I will see what we can do/if there’s an appatite for NWIS to jump on board. We have a means fo getting this pushed out quickly as a dedicated eform in the Welsh Clinical Portal so this could work.
J
Had a quick look. Was thinking about this over lunch with respect more to a patient self assessment tool in 1st instance but can see why you have steered away from that.
Have you had any chats with NDS about this? My thinking is that the blockers to any rollout and scale up would be staff authentication and patient ID at this stage for us, although of course Forth Valley have these integrations now so maybe an opportunity?
@Paulmiller - that was thinking exactly - great fit for FV, much harder for community or other settings.
Patient identity does not go away for us but by housing the app within WCP, we always maintain the “patient context” which comrises of NHS number and a varity of hospital numbers form the MPI. It might mean we inialise ehrId’s with hospital opposed to NHS numbers where these are not verified - not ideal but certinaly not a major problem either.