I have uploaded a set of persistence design notes at http://www.openehr.org/FAQs/t_persistence_notes.htm
Comments & contributions welcome.
- thomas beale
Hi Thomas,
Have you think of using Zope for the persistent layer?
Brendan
Brendan Cheng wrote:
Hi Thomas,
Have you think of using Zope for the persistent layer?
in the projects I am involved in, we are not using Zope, but others are already using in the health space. Tim Cook knows a lot more about it than I do, and might comment. I will include Zope on the design notes.
- thomas
We develop physician practice management software, so far without electronic
medical records. I have been following with interest the discussion here. We
need a more basic orientation.
Does anyone know of a basic resource--a book or extended document--that
would provide an overview of how practically to implement something like
OpenEhr in terms of database design in a practice management system, and,
for that matter explain the OpenEhr concept itself? Everything I've seen so
far assumes too much prior knowledge.
We operate in the United States. To what extent is OpenEhr in practical use
in Europe? Hospitals only? Private practices?
Randolph Neall
Veriquant, LLC
Randolph Neall wrote:
We develop physician practice management software, so far without electronic
medical records. I have been following with interest the discussion here. We
need a more basic orientation.Does anyone know of a basic resource--a book or extended document--that
would provide an overview of how practically to implement something like
OpenEhr in terms of database design in a practice management system, and,
for that matter explain the OpenEhr concept itself? Everything I've seen so
far assumes too much prior knowledge.We operate in the United States. To what extent is OpenEhr in practical use
in Europe? Hospitals only? Private practices?Randolph Neall
Veriquant, LLC
THere is an architecture overview at http://svn.openehr.org/specification/TRUNK/publishing/architecture/overview.pdf which you may or may not have seen. This is not an implementation guide, but will give you a feel for most of the principles of openEHR.
We don't yet have an implementation guide. The community is aimed creating open source components that implement large parts of openEHR, so that you don't have to implement it, you can just use it. These are not yet finished, although there are working versions in Java and C#. The most efficient way forward for a potential user such as your company is to understand what the APIs of these components are. These are not yet published, but we have a pretty good idea of them from the implementations so far (which can be shared of course, if you are interested).
There are also XML-schemas, which are probably the easiest entry point into openEHR (see http://svn.openehr.org/specification/TRUNK/publishing/its/XML-schema/index.html).
What language are you working in?
openEHR is extremely generic and provides a computing platform for use in any health environment; applications and archetypes provide the specific functionality and semantics in any particular situation. It is new (well, only about 8 years old;-) so its current use is small, but it is quickly growing.
- thomas beale
Randolph
We have a range of papers - and Tom and I will write the book soon! We are all learning too much to crystalise it at this point - but what aspects would you really like to cover?
Sam
Randolph Neall wrote:
Thomas,
Yes, I had seen that document and had started to read it. On your
recommendation, I will summon additional discipline and fortitude and slog
through it.
We use C#.
Randolph Neall
The OpenEHR documentation is pretty good, but here are some other links:
Book: "Person-Centered Health Records: Toward HealthePeople", Demetriades, Kolodner, Christopherson (editors). I have the book. Contains a collection of writings from various authors on the subject. Great read. David Forslund, who posts to this list, co-authored chapter 12 with Dipak Kalra.
Also check out
http://www.chcf.org/search/index.cfm?qt=open+source
http://www.chcf.org/topics/view.cfm?itemID=119091
http://www.chcf.org/documents/ihealth/OpenSourcePrimer.pdf
Those readings will give you the 50,000 foot view and some suggestions for system designs. You might alo
Good luck!
Richard Schilling
Cognition Group, Inc
Seattle, WA
Randolph Neall wrote:
Richard Schilling wrote:
The OpenEHR documentation is pretty good, but here are some other links:
Book: "Person-Centered Health Records: Toward HealthePeople", Demetriades, Kolodner, Christopherson (editors). I have the book. Contains a collection of writings from various authors on the subject. Great read. David Forslund, who posts to this list, co-authored chapter 12 with Dipak Kalra.
Also check out
http://www.chcf.org/search/index.cfm?qt=open+source
http://www.chcf.org/topics/view.cfm?itemID=119091
http://www.chcf.org/documents/ihealth/OpenSourcePrimer.pdf
Thanks for those links Richard.
speaking of decent books to read on the subject, I would recommend Van de Velde & Degoulet "Clinical Information Systems" 2003 Springer.
- thomas beale
Dear Randolph, Richard,
If you go to
and type Kalra in the search box, you will be taken to a set of my publications, many of which include downloadable versions in pdf.
For the open source book chapter, there is an "Author's version" for download, which is the near final version of the manuscript as submitted to the publisher. (The publisher has not permitted the final form to be hosted by UCL.)
Whilst this is not perfect, it is very close to the final chapter, and at least you can have a look at it before deciding if you wish to get the book!
With best wishes,
Dipak