OID once more

Two simpel questions, though the answer may be complicated

1) Is there an OID which can be used if there is no OID known, f.e. 0.0.0.0.0

2) I work for a comany which wants to use the insurance-number of a patient
for a special goal. It only wants the Insurance-number.
What is the best way to present this?
Normally, the Insurance-number is a part of the Identity which is a list of
II, but the items of that list do not contain meta-information. How can an
insurance number be recognized?

Dear Bert,

As you know, I am not technical enough to respond to you on OID construction, but I wanted you to know that I am sensitive to the OID-heavy nature of 13606 at present, and will look to ways to ease the implementation burden. I suspect your concerns will be shared by many.

With best wishes,
Dipak

Thanks Dipa, I hope it helps

best regards
Bert Verhees

Bert Verhees wrote:

Two simpel questions, though the answer may be complicated

1) Is there an OID which can be used if there is no OID known, f.e. 0.0.0.0.0

2) I work for a comany which wants to use the insurance-number of a patient for a special goal. It only wants the Insurance-number.
What is the best way to present this?
Normally, the Insurance-number is a part of the Identity which is a list of II, but the items of that list do not contain meta-information. How can an insurance number be recognized?

for what it is worth, I think that HL7 has not modelled identities properly; using only II for everything assumes that every organisation in the world will have OIDs and be using them for all the things they issue. I really doubt that this will ever happen, but even if it does, it won't be in place for another 10-20 years. In openEHR we differentiate between OBJECT_ID (ids for informational things) and DV_IDENTIFIER, a data type for identifiers of real world obejcts, like drivers licenses and insurance; this latter type contains the attributes you need to indicate the organisation etc.See the data types at http://www.openehr.org/repositories/spec-dev/latest/publishing/architecture/reference_model/data_types/data_types_im.pdf.

- thomas