Thanks Heather,
Worth a try 
Ian
The ascendance of clinical modeling on the international informatics agenda should be supported. The ground work done by the openEHR Foundation has shown prescient leadership. I will attend any tutorial or presentation related to this at MedInfo 2013. The last session at the Cape Town MedInfo helped spawn a national initiative to achieve clinical information and process standards for the eMR domain in Canada.
Best to all
Willing to help
jh
John B. Hughes M.D., C.M.
Assistant Professor
McGill University
Faculty of Medicine
Heather
just a small catch: Workshops are free to attend (provided you registered for the conference;-). Tutorials are to be paid for.
Jan
Thanks for the clarification, Jan. We tried to get a workshop and it hasn't
worked out.
However if we can still have an opportunity to present as a tutorial then I
think there are a lot of people who would be interested to have access to an
introduction to the openEHR methodology.
That has certainly been our experience in the past when the openEHR tutorial
was the only one that had numbers to run, and all others were cancelled, way
back at MIE at Goteburg. There are people who are active in the community
now who attended that conference and with whom we had first contact with
openEHR who have now gone on to become further involved...
So, yes, free would be ideal, but paid tutorials are still an opportunity
to assume that the presenters will not be paid, even if the attendees have
to 
Cheers
Heather
Following on from Silje, Jussara and John’s recent emails, I wonder if members of the community were to contact the scientific committee and request that the decision not to run the workshop be reconsidered…
Would that influence their decision?
Anyone interested? Or am I totally mad? J
Cheers
Heather
P.S. spc@medinfo2013.dk J
Following on from Silje, Jussara and John’s recent emails, I wonder if members of the community were to contact the scientific committee and request that the decision not to run the workshop be reconsidered…
Would that influence their decision?
Anyone interested? Or am I totally mad? J
Cheers
Heather
P.S. spc@medinfo2013.dk J
I suggest contacting the chair of SPC in person again and have a friendly discussion by giving all specifics. I’ve had positive results in past.
If not let’s protest it by not attending and they’ll never dare to do that again! That’s just one good example of how peer review processes can be flawed. I don’t think there is any bad intentions but just natural limitations of time and human resource. These should all be crowd-sourced.
Does anyone know either of these Co-Chairs personally ?
Dominik Aronsky (Switzerland, Co-Chair)
Tze‐Yun Leong (Singapore, Co-Chair)
If yes than please have a friendly discussion to see if this decision can be reversed.
Evelyn
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Does anyone know either of these Co-Chairs personally ?
Dominik Aronsky (Switzerland, Co-Chair)
Tze‐Yun Leong (Singapore, Co-Chair)
If yes than please have a friendly discussion to see if this decision can be reversed.
Evelyn
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eHealth Education Pty Ltd, RTO 32279
(trading as RSC Training and eHE Training)
: PO Box 9783, Frenchville Qld 4701
- e.hovenga@ehe.edu.au
È 0408309839
’ 1300 285 512
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Hi everyone,
We have confirmation of acceptance of our Clinical Modelling Tutorial for Medinfo, with the details pretty much unchanged from our original submission for a workshop.
I will submit the tutorial description, such that it is unchanged from our original submission, as requested.
Please note that presenters are required to register for the conference and today is the last day for Early Bird registrations. Those that volunteered at the original time of submission were:
· Ian McNicoll
· Rong Chen
· Jussara Macedo
· Shinji Kobayashi
· Anze Droljc
· And maybe myself, if I can get myself half way around the world in time J
Regards
Heather
Hi All,
As you may already know New Zealand have decided to used openEHR Archetypes for modelling an Exchange Content Model for the purpose of standardising payload content during health information exchange (HIE). Of course there’s heaps of prior work done, mostly propriety dataset specifications we well as some v2 based constructs and now CDA templates. We also decided to go with CDA as the common payload between systems, preferably with a web-services based connectivity. So ideally the content model will be defined using Archetypes that will then be templated for specific use-cases (e.g. eReferrals) and finally create final CDA payload (as much automatically as we can). And then the propagation of any changes needed in that exchange will be from the Content Model to CDA – so these will remain linked. However initially we need to run the cycle backwards: I’ve been tasked by the government to review existing CDA templates and former standards and build part of the content model for medication list, allergies and adverse reactions by harmonising with what’s standing out there as good/reusable examples. Of course first place to look at is openEHR and NEHTA CKM but I know a great deal of stuff is also out there. I’m hoping that once we get the essentials done we can resume the normal lifecycle.
I’d really appreciate if you could share if there’s any relevant work that you think might worth looking at. I’m particularly interested in other national CKM’s. Many thanks in advance.
Cheers,
-koray
Koray Atalag, MD, PhD, FACHI
Senior Research Fellow
School of Population Health, The University of Auckland
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Hi All,
As you may already know New Zealand have decided to used openEHR Archetypes for modelling an Exchange Content Model for the purpose of standardising payload content during health information exchange (HIE). Of course there’s heaps of prior work done, mostly propriety dataset specifications we well as some v2 based constructs and now CDA templates. We also decided to go with CDA as the common payload between systems, preferably with a web-services based connectivity. So ideally the content model will be defined using Archetypes that will then be templated for specific use-cases (e.g. eReferrals) and finally create final CDA payload (as much automatically as we can). And then the propagation of any changes needed in that exchange will be from the Content Model to CDA – so these will remain linked. However initially we need to run the cycle backwards: I’ve been tasked by the government to review existing CDA templates and former standards and build part of the content model for medication list, allergies and adverse reactions by harmonising with what’s standing out there as good/reusable examples. Of course first place to look at is openEHR and NEHTA CKM but I know a great deal of stuff is also out there. I’m hoping that once we get the essentials done we can resume the normal lifecycle.
I’d really appreciate if you could share if there’s any relevant work that you think might worth looking at. I’m particularly interested in other national CKM’s. Many thanks in advance.
Cheers,
-koray
Koray Atalag, MD, PhD, FACHI
Senior Research Fellow
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School of Population Health, The University of Auckland
Private Bag 92019 Auckland 1142, New Zealand
Email: k.atalag@nihi.auckland.ac.nz | Web: www.nihi.auckland.ac.nz
Skype: atalagk Mob: 021 02412096 DDI: +64 9 923 7199
Hi Jussara, thanks.
And thanks others who have responded directly to me.
I’m really keen to hear from the many other people on these lists.
I think ideally we should have this kind of intelligence somewhere on the website, e.g. who’s using what models etc.
Hi Koray,
In the UK, at least for now, we are using our own Medication and Allergy archetypes, which are being developed at clinmodels.org.uk. This is largely to allow us to build on work done the existing UK GP2GP project and the RCP heading standards. We are also interested in keeping close to SMARTPlatforms. For problems / procedures we think that the current international CKM archetypes are fine.
I have started using new CKM medication and problem archetypes (very close to the NEHTA equivalents) to model alignment with epSOS CDA templates. This work is at an early stage and for now is in a private incubator on the international CKM. This will be opened up shortly once the work is a little more advanced.
Ian
Sorry everyone,
I posted an incorrect link for the Clinical models CKM in the UK. It should be clinicalmodels.org.uk.
As well as medication and allergies models we expect to be developing some models which reflect UK End of Life Care Plan standards.
Ian
…probably worth noting that the “we” below is not “UK”. There are a number of approaches across the UK (taking a view that is neutral on the various standards “religions”), with, as noted below, a fair bit of looking across at each others’ work.
Ann W.
Ann M Wrightson
Pensaer TG | Lead Technical Design Architect
Gwasanaeth Gwybodeg GIG Cymru | NHS Wales Informatics Service
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Hi Ann,
Yes, for clarity, I should have said those of us the UK ‘looking at archetypes’ are using the clinicalmodels.org.uk models, rather than those in the international space.
We are trying to get some clinical alignment across the 4 UK nations but as you know, currently only England uses HL7 for messaging purposes with variants of ‘SCI-XML’ being used in Wales, Scotland and NI, so the goal is to establish a means of developing clinically-driven semantics, independent of the final syntactic representation, not unlike the current position in AUS and NZ.
One of the main drivers for doing ‘our own thing’ was the need to stay very well-aligned with the GP2GP record transfer project which has been successfully delivering rich semantic interoperability for some years, and is to be extended across the UK.
Ian