Highmed openEHR symposium 31.1.25

:mega: Don’t Miss This: “openEHR in Digital Health: Meeting today’s needs, driving tomorrow’s innovations” - January 31, 2025

We warmly invite you to the openEHR Symposium at the Kaiserin-Friedrich-Stiftung in Berlin!

HiGHmed offers you the unique opportunity to discover the latest groundbreaking developments and use cases of openEHR in Digital Health and to engage in intensive discussions with international experts.

More information will follow shortly.

:round_pushpin: Where: Kaiserin-Friedrich-Stiftung, Berlin
:spiral_calendar: When: 31.01.2025

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@SevKohler copying in @Pete_Bouvier who will promote ongoing for you nearer the date.

Thanks for the heads up!

Perhaps it could be smart to have some openEHR workgroup/committee meetings before or after that. Central Berlin is so much more accessible via public transport than e.g. “Wokefield Estate Golf Club” and offers more housing alternatives.

P.S. Date formats like 31.01.2025 are not always internationally recognised so it could be smart to change it to January 31, 2025 in the post heading. (Just like Germans often assume everybody will understand 10.11 or 25.11.24 Swedes often wrongly assume 2025-01-31 to be a standard everybody uses…)

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Great. Looking forward to it. Is there a LinkedIn event? Help me get it into and update in my calendar.

After all, ISO 8601 is an international standard. It is even recommended in DIN ( Deutsches Institut für Normung) and the old one is only permitted.

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Thank you for the announcement. I am looking forward to meeting you there =)!!!

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https://highmed.universal-berlin.com Sign up here :slight_smile:

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It would be great to visit, though in January I hope to be on vacation at the beach :beach_umbrella:

Would have loved to attend, unfortunately it’s unlikely for me to be able to return this side of the world after ehrcon24. Willt there be any remote options?

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Thank you for the announcement!

Ophthalmologist in training and complete openEHR-Newbie here, I’ll be at the symposium to learn more about it.

side note:
I’m trying to push for better interoperability in ophthalmology - at the moment mostly based on FHIR, but I’m wondering whether we should think about about coherence between information models and terminology between OpenEHR and future ophthalmic FHIR IGs early on, as lots of challenges may overlap.

So if there is anyone out here, who is interested (or already working) in the domain of ophthalmology please feel free to get in touch, at the symposium or whenever!

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@ian.mcnicoll maybe know more :slight_smile:

In NHS Scotland we are deploying OpenEyes nationally under the technical leadership of my day job’s organisation, NHS Education for Scotland Technology Service.

We investigated, and Apperta did some modelling, the feasibility of creating openEHR compositions alongside OpenEyes own data but we have not implemented this. At the time our platform maturity was not there. It is better now but there is no priority / use case at the moment for doing this. I think it may come, for example visual acuity and partially sighted status are two OpenEyes data items that could be generally useful in a shared record / patient oriented record.

Right now, however, we have other things being prioritised so when we will hit this requirement is uncertain. Hopefully when it does we will be able to handle it as a fairly routine integration piece. Hopefully…

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@David-Jobling probably has more insight, though his work with openEYES.

We have had a few efforts to map openEyes components to openEHR but it is a scarily detailed area.

See an earlier effort in the PDF
Green = match
Yellow = match but needs change
Red = new archetype required
Grey = out of scope

Examination event.pdf (3.0 MB)

@bna -might have some insight from DIPS work in this area.

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Dear Ian and Paul,

Thank you both, I have to admit that was not awaye of OpenEyes, what a fascinating project!
From the project’s website I gather it’s mostly implemented in the UK?
I would love to learn more as I see a real need for open ophthalmic EHRs with good data models in Germany.
It’s a shame that implementing it over here would propably be an utterly herculean task, both in terms of language and MDR approval/regulatory aspects…

@ian.mcnicoll “scarily detailed” rings true, but from what I can tell by the UI OpenEyes has not been scared off from modelling in a highly granular fashion, which is great, thank you for sharing!

@Paulmiller National deployment sounds like FHIR-based data exchange might not be as necessary for you as it is in Germany, where the EMR market is highly fractioned.
Are you aware of any efforts to exchange data stored in openEHR or OpenEyes data models using FHIR?

I have this though stuck in my mind that the (relative) immaturity of ophthalmic data modelling in both FHIR IGs and openEHR may turn out be a blessing in disguise, as it may allows for some mutual flexibility and synergies in trying to develop them in tandem…
It may be really difficult to build a team around a common use case for this, but if openEHR architecture for ophthalmic data were aligned with (future) FHIR IGs, then openEHR may be seen as the go-to model to store ophthalmic data in a structure that is easily mappable to FHIR. Or maybe I’m wrong? I would be really interested to hear your thoughts on this!

If you are interested, I’ve done some experimental profiling FHIR ressources for visual acuity data with emphasis flexible recombination of simple SNOMED/LOINC concepts within the resource to reflect many clinically relevant test variants, including complicated things like contact lens overrefraction or binocular tests with monocular correction. which are not supported by most EMRs at the moment. I’m writing about it one the FHIR Zulip Channel for Opththalmology, which sadly isn’t very active.

Sorry for derailing the symposium announcement by the way!
Shall we move our discussion to the “OpenEyes on openEHR” thread or something?

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Hi Lars, It may be worth getting in contact with Peter Coates from the The Apperta Foundation who I’m sure you will be interested in talking to as they own the largest Ophthalmology EPR/EMR called openEYES in the UK and they are currently re-platforming to openEHR.: https://openeyes.apperta.org/

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Lars - perhaps we can move this topic to a clinical modelling channel, where it might get more visibility?

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Same here I would love to join remotely thank you

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I have been a member of the openeyes community before it ran out of funds and I’m particularly keen on the use of similar capability in other clinical context outside opthamology. But I wonder if their resources are open. The apperta ckm was shutdown, luckily the github mirror is there, but it’s a little bit difficult implementing or even tinkering with the spec since the documentation is locked. How do we get access to the confluence pages… otherwise i suspect interested persons will have a difficult time utilising/exploring this great spec.

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Some interesting work going on with AWS and openEYES and openEHR. Peter Coates (peter.coates@Apperta.org) could fill you in. I think a collaborative approach with Ophthalmology clinical modelling could be mutually beneficial.

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