[All: this is a long post on an important topic, so I’ve made it a wiki post i.e. directly editable by others. Feel free to make inline additions, but please try to retain the general integrity. I suggest to add your initials to any additions. Most likely we should create extra topics on each major …

It is good conversation but is probably mixing up the tech and the clinical semantics/governance. The tech that is not quite right for me is a simpler approach to references between Entry objects that allows Nesting of Entries including inside the same composition. Making Entries more Restful from…

[image] ian.mcnicoll: Nesting of Entries including inside the same composition. Can we clarify the sense in which you mean ‘nesting’ … do you mean: A: an Entry (primarily an Evaluation?) can refer to other previously recorded Entries, and the linked structure is visualised as a hierarchy? B…

I’ll add my technical 2 cents here, and let the others figure out the medico-legal and otherwise content-related aspects, and I’ll also send @borut.fabjan and @vanessap this way for that reason. From technical POV, I would only like to see a persisted copy of the data within those lists if there is…

[image] matijap: As there would probably be a widespread interest in having the CDR handle the assembly of the actual list (with contents, not just links), that should be handled in another way, e.g. another API endpoint, and a server-side function or similar for AQL. Then it would be up to impl…

I’m starting to think that Citation may not be needed, with a little bit of work on the LINK class. What are people’s views on making more use of uids vs. full AQL paths, at least at runtime, and emulating the CDA/FHIR approach of allowing in-composition local references?

If I fall under the “people” category, I must say I didn’t understand the question. :slight_smile: Could you elaborate?

To my understanding, we would have to do this anyway if we need to link to a specific entry inside compositions with repeating paths. I gave it some thought that this should be a configuration of EHRbase to automatically create uids if an entry’s path inside a particular composition is not unique.

@matijap - sorry - I was being a bit confusing. Fir ‘id’ I was raising the issue that I see increasing use of the ENTRY.uid or sometimes ENTRY.event.uid, either for internal references or to identify the ENTRY or (sub-ENTRY like event) to line-up with FHIR. e.g how do you gnerate a FHIR.id for an OB…

[image] ian.mcnicoll: increasing use of the ENTRY.uid or sometimes ENTRY.event.uid, either for internal references or to identify the ENTRY or (sub-ENTRY like event) to line-up with FHIR. e.g how do you gnerate a FHIR.id for an OBSERVATION? I think eventually mandating or strongly recommendin…

[image] ian.mcnicoll: I’m starting to think that Citation may not be needed, with a little bit of work on the LINK class The changes that we would need to propose on LINK would be the same ones that CITATION brings - primarily an attribute containing the resolved target of the LINK on retriev…

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joostholslag (Joost Holslag) 26 April 2021 08:17 18

Another use-case example. Mayo score - ready for publication - #8 by joostholslag

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