# Why is the DV_TEXT element missing when mapping terminologies with ORDINAL? **Category:** [ADL](https://discourse.openehr.org/c/adl/40) **Created:** 2025-10-01 11:01 UTC **Views:** 27 **Replies:** 0 **URL:** https://discourse.openehr.org/t/why-is-the-dv-text-value-element-missing-when-mapping-terminologies-with-ordinal/11468 --- ## Post #1 by @Yasitha_Thilantha I created an archetype with an **ORDINAL** attribute and mapped terminologies into the options. Using that archetype, I created a template and tried to validate it against the openEHR schema specifications. During validation, I noticed that one mandatory element, `` under **DV_TEXT**, is missing. Both the archetype and template were created using the *Better Archetype Designer* tool. This is the validation error I got: ‘value’ expected instead of ‘defining_code’ ![image|418x399](upload://6GkBzFmj7w23G7fDSVF6M88BLSG.png) Do you have any idea why this mandatory element is missing in the OPT file? --- **Canonical:** https://discourse.openehr.org/t/why-is-the-dv-text-value-element-missing-when-mapping-terminologies-with-ordinal/11468 **Original content:** https://discourse.openehr.org/t/why-is-the-dv-text-value-element-missing-when-mapping-terminologies-with-ordinal/11468