# What is the owner of party(VERSIONED_OBJECT.Owner_Id) **Category:** [Tools](https://discourse.openehr.org/c/tool-dev/36) **Created:** 2021-06-14 08:17 UTC **Views:** 639 **Replies:** 2 **URL:** https://discourse.openehr.org/t/what-is-the-owner-of-party-versioned-object-owner-id/1630 --- ## Post #1 by @M.farokhtabar Hi everyone, I am trying to implement VERSIONED_PARTY. But I encounter with a problem(owner_id is a mandatory field) what is the owner of party ?? In my opinion there are not any owners for a party. So, it would be better to be null. Am I wrong? --- ## Post #2 by @sebastian.iancu Hi, The answer to "what is the owner of a Party" is not that simple, as that owner is quite generic and (as far as I know) we are missing real life implementation information. There are not that much implementation of the Demographic package. At least in our case (Code24 BV, Netherlands), we consider the owner a "System", same as also used in EHR.system_id. But in theory it could be also an Organisation. Depending on the choice made, that can be always filled with a OBJECT_REF pointing to a system_id or Organisation.uid. So it does not have to be null or optional. Hopefully this gives you some inspiration to continue. One more remark/note: the Demographics package does not have yet support in REST Api and neither on AQL level, but the SEC group is discussing and working this issues. --- ## Post #3 by @M.farokhtabar That is a beautiful answer. I am going to use Organisation instead of system_id. --- **Canonical:** https://discourse.openehr.org/t/what-is-the-owner-of-party-versioned-object-owner-id/1630 **Original content:** https://discourse.openehr.org/t/what-is-the-owner-of-party-versioned-object-owner-id/1630