# Tips on archetype/template for "Central venous line/catheter"?
**URL:** https://discourse.openehr.org/t/tips-on-archetype-template-for-central-venous-line-catheter/1611
**Category:** Clinical
**Tags:** archetype, template
**Created:** [7 June 2021 15:01 UTC](https://discourse.openehr.org/t/tips-on-archetype-template-for-central-venous-line-catheter/1611 "2021-06-07T15:01:24Z")
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### Author:  [@annarossander](https://discourse.openehr.org/u/annarossander)
#### Post date: [7 June 2021 15:01 UTC](https://discourse.openehr.org/t/tips-on-archetype-template-for-central-venous-line-catheter/1611/1 "2021-06-07T15:01:24Z")
Can anyone point me towards a suitable archetype/template for documenting insertion of central venous lines/catheters? Ie something that would include things like:
- type of catheter and it’s characteristics
- site of insertion and tip
- method of insertion (+/- ultrasound guidance, over guidewire etc)
- prophylactic antibiotics and/or other meds
- post-procedural follow up
Would be very grateful for any tips, it doesn’t have to include all of the above 🙂 Apologies in advance if this was easy to find and just me not looking in the right place, if so - grateful for tips about the right place instead 🙂
Thanks! / Anna
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### Author:  [@pablo](https://discourse.openehr.org/u/pablo)
#### Post date: [7 June 2021 19:16 UTC](https://discourse.openehr.org/t/tips-on-archetype-template-for-central-venous-line-catheter/1611/2 "2021-06-07T19:16:35Z")
Hi Anna, a long time ago I worked in the emergency trauma process, and we needed to develop our own archetypes for central and peripheral venous catheters. I couldn’t find the original archetypes we created, but I have a sample one about the catheters installed in a prehospitalary phase (sorry it’s in Spanish): [open-ehr-gen-framework/openEHR-EHR-ACTION.vias\_venosas\_prehospitalario.v1.adl at master · ppazos/open-ehr-gen-framework · GitHub](https://github.com/ppazos/open-ehr-gen-framework/blob/master/ehrgen/archetypes/ehr/entry/action/openEHR-EHR-ACTION.vias_venosas_prehospitalario.v1.adl)
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### Author:  [@siljelb](https://discourse.openehr.org/u/siljelb)
#### Post date: [7 June 2021 20:22 UTC](https://discourse.openehr.org/t/tips-on-archetype-template-for-central-venous-line-catheter/1611/3 "2021-06-07T20:22:09Z")
Hi Anna! Are you wanting to document the action of inserting the catheter, or the fact that one is in situ? Those two situations would probably be best represented respectively by the [ACTION.procedure archetype](https://ckm.openehr.org/ckm/archetypes/1013.1.204) or the [EVALUATION.device\_summary archetype](https://ckm.openehr.org/ckm/archetypes/1013.1.2381). The former has been well tested and reviewed, while the latter is currently a draft. The details about the catheter device that you outline would have to be created as a CLUSTER archetype to be included within one of these two, depending on the relevant context.
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### Author:  [@annarossander](https://discourse.openehr.org/u/annarossander)
#### Post date: [8 June 2021 13:38 UTC](https://discourse.openehr.org/t/tips-on-archetype-template-for-central-venous-line-catheter/1611/4 "2021-06-08T13:38:46Z")
Thank you @siljelb and @pablo ! I will look at these and perhaps get back to you later with more questions 🙂
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### Author:  [@erik.sundvall](https://discourse.openehr.org/u/erik.sundvall)
#### Post date: [30 June 2022 13:58 UTC](https://discourse.openehr.org/t/tips-on-archetype-template-for-central-venous-line-catheter/1611/5 "2022-06-30T13:58:30Z")
@annarossander there is interest from more places in Sweden (and likely globally) to look further into these and related things, see also:
- [Handling CVCs and PVCs](https://discourse.openehr.org/t/handling-cvcs-and-pvcs/685) and
- [Blivande implementationshandbok? In- och utfarter](https://openehr.atlassian.net/wiki/spaces/healthmod/pages/1923022883/In-+och+utfarter)
Do you have any models/material from your region to share @annarossander?