# scientifical significance of research proposal **Category:** [Technical (archive)](https://discourse.openehr.org/c/technical-archive/156) **Created:** 2007-07-04 11:29 UTC **Views:** 20 **Replies:** 7 **URL:** https://discourse.openehr.org/t/scientifical-significance-of-research-proposal/14652 --- ## Post #1 by @Christoph_Rinner Dear All, We plan to apply for a research proposal, which focuses on importing and exporting archetype compliant EN13606 ehr extracts, originating from medical data that has been stored previously in different proprietary format of the communicating HISs\. We plan to test our solution by developing an Archetype representation of a hospital discharge letter that should consider existing specifications for this document type and also integrate our corresponding national requirements for a discharge letter\. As the communication framework we would choose IHE XDS, combining it with Archetypes\. May I ask you about your opinion of the “scientifical significance” of the above sketched idea of the proposal: \- Do you know any published implementations of EN 13606 other then these mentioned below? \[Maldonado Segura JA\. Historia Clinica Electronica Federada Basada en la Norma Europea CEN/TC251 EN13606: PhD Thesis, Universidad Politecnica de Valencia; 2005\.\] \[Munoz A et al\. Proof\-of\-Concept Design and Development of an EN13606\-based Electronic Healthcare Record Service\. J Am Med Inform Assoc; 2007; 14\(1\): pp\. 118\-129\.\] \- Do you know of any previous work of practically applying Archetypes for structured health data communication, maybe also based on XDS? Is the examination of how to efficiently apply the theoretical archetype concept in a practical clinical scenario scientifically valuable in your opinion? \- Is a national archetype representation of a hospital discharge letter scientifically valuable in your opinion? Is it scientifically relevant to test Archetypes in real\-world problems? Has this been done already and is it published somewhere? Thanks a lot in advance\. Christoph Rinner --- ## Post #2 by @Dipak_Kalra Dear Christopher, I think what you describe sounds very interesting and definitely of scientific interest. The work needs to be framed in such a way that it will be seen to have a sound method and evaluation. I'd cetainly be interested in keeping in touch with your work as it progresses. With best wishes, Dipak --- ## Post #3 by @Adolfo_Munoz Dear Christopher, I agree with Dipak about the interest of your proposal\. My Laboratory is also working in projects involving archetypes \(indeed, we are the authors of the second reference you included\), and we would like also to be in contact to share experiences and support\. Good luck :\-\)     Adolfo Muñoz --- ## Post #4 by @system Dear Christoph, Ocean Informatics as a company will be interested. I know that organisations in the Netherlands will be very interested. As will be EuroRec, the European Institute for Health Records. On all roles I would like to participate. Greetings Gerard Freriks **conexis** --- ## Post #5 by @Christoph_Rinner Thanks a lot for your positive feedback. I will keep you updated on our work. Christoph Rinner --- ## Post #6 by @Hugh_Leslie Ocean has been recently doing some work in translating archetypes into Chilean Spanish which is proceeding well. We have come across a minor issue with standards for language tags and wanted to get the groups opinion and consensus about where we should go with this. The current ocean archetype editor creates language tags with ISO639-1 coding i.e. [ISO639-1::es]. This becomes incorrect when a user selects a more specific language such as es-CL and we get [ISO639-1::es-CL]. This is incorrect, because ISO639-1 is only the 2 digit language code. I have done a little bit of research and it appears that what is generally used is the IETF language tags which are related to ISO but not the same. (See [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IETF_language_tag](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IETF_language_tag)). Windows (the .net framework at least) seems to support IETF language tags, however they also seem to use a method of combining culture name in the format "<languagecode2>-<country/regioncode2>", where <languagecode2> is a lowercase two-letter code derived from ISO 639-1 and <country/regioncode2> is an uppercase two-letter code derived from ISO 3166. This seems to be a problematic thing. Java also seems to support the IETF tags at some level. Does anyone have an easy solution to this one? IETF is the only thing I have seen that seems to relate directly to language. Hugh --- ## Post #7 by @mikael Hi Huge, In languages and dialects are coded in the following way First, a mandatory language code from ISO639-1 “Codes for the representation of names of languages” for representation of the language. After the ISO639-1 code is it possible to add dash and an upper-case string that identify the dialect. If the dialect is general in a whole country then a code from ISO3166 “Codes for the representation of names of countries” is used. If the dialect is not general for a country then a code from Internet Assigned Numbers Authority, IANA, is used. The documentation says that this approach is similar to the approach used by W3C. I think this is quite similar to what you have found. /Mikael --- ## Post #8 by @Hugh_Leslie Hi Mikael That does sound like what Microsoft are doing in WIndows. Apparently, the IETF language tags are what are in use in HTML, HTTP, and XML tags which would also give this approach some validity! regards Hugh Mikael Nyström wrote: --- **Canonical:** https://discourse.openehr.org/t/scientifical-significance-of-research-proposal/14652 **Original content:** https://discourse.openehr.org/t/scientifical-significance-of-research-proposal/14652