# Regarding the use of the dual model approach and openEHR in clinical trial management software

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**Created:** 2011-06-10 13:00 UTC
**Views:** 10
**Replies:** 5
**URL:** https://discourse.openehr.org/t/regarding-the-use-of-the-dual-model-approach-and-openehr-in-clinical-trial-management-software/14158

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## Post #1 by @ANASTASIOU_A1

Hello everyone

I was just wondering if there are any projects out there that have been
looking at employing the dual model approach to describe clinical trial
data or that are using openEHR at the back\-end \(?\)

I may be searching in the literature using the wrong \(and obvious\) terms
but nothing much is coming up so far\.

Looking forward to hearing from you
Athanasios Anastasiou

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## Post #2 by @pablo

Hi Athanasios,

We have implemented the two level modeling approach in our OpenEHR-Gen project: [http://code.google.com/p/open-ehr-gen-framework/](http://code.google.com/p/open-ehr-gen-framework/)

It is a generic system (a framework), so it can handle virtually any kind of archetyped data.

If you have any questions, I'll be happy to help.

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## Post #3 by @ANASTASIOU_A1

Hello Pablo

Thank you very much for your reply, i have come across openEHR\-Gen and i
do keep an eye on it\.

I was just wondering if there is anything more specific on Clinical
Trials though, from any existing work on specific archetypes for
clinical trials to clinical trial data management software using openEHR
for the back end \(?\)

All the best
Athanasios Anastasiou

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## Post #4 by @ian.mcnicoll

Hi,

I suggest you contact Christian Kohl, whose PhD covered this subject\.

Christian D\. Kohl
Dipl\.\-Inform\. Med\.

Universitätsklinikum Heidelberg
Institut für Medizinische Biometrie und Informatik
Medizinische Informatik

E\-Mail: Christian\.Kohl@med\.uni\-heidelberg\.de

Dr Ian McNicoll
office \+44 \(0\)1536 414 994
         \+44 \(0\)2032 392 970
fax \+44 \(0\)1536 516317
mobile \+44 \(0\)775 209 7859
skype ianmcnicoll
ian\.mcnicoll@oceaninformatics\.com

Clinical Modelling Consultant, Ocean Informatics, UK
openEHR Clinical Knowledge Editor www\.openehr\.org/knowledge
Honorary Senior Research Associate, CHIME, UCL
BCS Primary Health Care  www\.phcsg\.org

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## Post #5 by @ian.mcnicoll

http://www.openehr.org/wiki/download/attachments/5996988/SecondaryUse_Kohl.pdf

Ian

Dr Ian McNicoll
office \+44 \(0\)1536 414 994
         \+44 \(0\)2032 392 970
fax \+44 \(0\)1536 516317
mobile \+44 \(0\)775 209 7859
skype ianmcnicoll
ian\.mcnicoll@oceaninformatics\.com

Clinical Modelling Consultant, Ocean Informatics, UK
openEHR Clinical Knowledge Editor www\.openehr\.org/knowledge
Honorary Senior Research Associate, CHIME, UCL
BCS Primary Health Care  www\.phcsg\.org

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## Post #6 by @ANASTASIOU_A1

Hello Ian

Many thanks for these pieces of information, from the material that
appears in the presentation this seems to cover exactly what i am after\.

All the best
Athanasios Anastasiou

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