# openEHR conference - proposal for Lake Bled, Slovenia 2012 - POLL **Category:** [Clinical (archive)](https://discourse.openehr.org/c/clinical-archive/153) **Created:** 2012-01-10 12:14 UTC **Views:** 6 **Replies:** 21 **URL:** https://discourse.openehr.org/t/openehr-conference-proposal-for-lake-bled-slovenia-2012-poll/15137 --- ## Post #1 by @thomas.beale Dear all, for some years now, people have expressed interest in a live openEHR event. There is no doubt it is overdue! One nice place for such an event happens to be available for 2012: **Lake Bled, Slovenia**, sometime in the period **mid September - mid October** - if we act fast. **Nothing has been booked**: the purpose of this post is for you to decide if you like the idea, and vote on the doodle poll below, so we can determine interest and dates. PLEASE RESPOND AS SOON AS YOU RECEIVE THIS, TIME IS SHORT FOR BOOKING. Possibilities for a conference are as below (it's a compendium of ideas from people with a slight allergy to wall-to-wall presentations inside a hotel!) I have run these ideas past the interim openEHR board, and a few other experienced openEHR-ites, and the initial response was positive. There is a poll below to register your interest. - LOCATION: Lake Bled, Slovenia, one of the jewels of central Europe, easy to get to, not too expensive; [touristic info](http://www.bled.si/en/) - CONFERENCE ACTIVITIES: - max 3 days of 'conference' activity, with keynotes & organised presentations, many self-organised workshops and hang-outs - keynotes: 2 or 3 international speakers - hang-outs could be in the hotels, but also cafes, by the lake shore, or in picnic fields - topics would include all levels of openEHR-related work, including - clinical modelling, - governance, - programming & solutions in every language, - decision support, - model merging for 13606 revision, - possible Clinical Information Modelling Initiative (CIMI) meetings/presentations - using archetypes to make coffee - etc - academic side: it seems like a good opportunity to get some nice papers together. They would be published in a special issue of one of the existing journals, possibly [ejHI](http://www.ejhi.net/ojs/index.php/ejhi). - there would be significant opportunity for the community to self-organise events & activities leading up to the conference. - SOCIAL: - participants encouraged to bring partners, kids and to enjoy the beautiful surroundings - one conference dinner - interspersed with the conference activities, there would be some organised outdoor activities, and free time for self-organised things like canoing, sight-seeing, tourist visits to Ljubljana, the caves, etc - we would organise some good cultural stuff, including live music and maybe a dance night etc - the first day of the conference would be 80% organised social activities and meeting people, no presentations at all (Joaquim Dudeck did this years ago at a CDA conference in Berlin, and it worked fantastically well - all the attendees more or less knew each other by the time any actual conferencing got underway). - COSTS: - we have done some pricing, and we think the attendance price would be around €500 / head - air-travel to Ljubljana (capital of Slovenia) and then to lake Bled is generally in the €100 per head range if booked ahead from European destinations. - hotel costs are in a wide range, from €70 / night single, 80-90 twin, to €150+/night for lake view doubles and suites. - The organisers would provide guidance for people who want to make a proper holiday out of it and stay one or both weekends (in fact, we might make one weekend part of the conf) - There is a large contingent of local openEHR interest in Slovenia, and many friendly people there who will make visitors welcome and help with organisation (of course there will be a professional company running the event, an organising committee, and so on). Those of you who get involved in conferences will know that there is not much time left for 2012 - about 8 months lead time is needed. We would look for sponsorship to help cover costs. WHAT WE NEED TO DO NOW (AND QUICKLY): - If the above sounds interesting, **a window is open** for this Lake Bled, mid-Sep -> mid-Oct. I have created an online poll to gauge interest: - INSTRUCTIONS: - go to the [doodle poll](http://www.doodle.com/mry4ky77nnzpacu9) - please check contiguous days that could work for you as a conference week - CHECK ALL DAYS OPEN FOR YOU. It's a bit annoying, seems you have to individually check each date, but we would need this data to determine the best date - If you want to be **anonymous**, no problem - please put something like "Sweden #14", "Brazil #38", etc - OR... if you like the idea but don't like the location or timing, please say something on the clinical or technical list in response to this post. THE INTENDED OUTCOME OF THE POLL IS TO DETERMINE: - **how many people** (roughly) are interested, and would come sometime in the period available - **which week** should be booked for the conference, since this has to be locked in very soon One variable that could also be changed is duration. Some people might want more of a short working meeting - as far as I can see, there is no way to include this idea on the doodle poll; please indicate on the lists. If you like the conference idea, but can't participate in the above proposal, or would like some other proposal, please post you ideas instead on the lists. thanks for your input. - thomas beale --- ## Post #2 by @system All, I'd support such a meeting\. I may not be part of the active openEHR community, but I certainly believe in the power of face to face meetings, next to being a virtual community\. To only be virtual has some serious disadvantages\.\. This is also the main reason why the HL7 RIM implementers community mainly meets face to face, instead of relying on teleconferences\. It's all about the networking \[plug: the next meeting will be in Sweden, joint with openEHR implementers: http://wiki.hl7.org/index.php?title=RIMBAA_201203_Agenda] Back to the openEHR event: if it doesn't conflict with some other stuff I'll be attending \.\. so I did fill in the doodle poll\. TTYL, \-Rene --- ## Post #3 by @pablo Hi Thomas, excellent initiative! For us not in the EURO zone would be nice to participate in some way too, would the event be filmed? --- ## Post #4 by @thomas.beale I'm not an expert on that kind of thing, but getting video of main sessions should be possible. Maybe we can do some live streaming... I'll ask about this. - thomas --- ## Post #5 by @pablo Hi Thomas, maybe just publishing the videos after the event will suffice. --- ## Post #6 by @heather.leslie I’d love to see this timed to be close to another event for those of us who have to travel from the other side of the world. MIE2012 is occurring at the end of August, so a slightly earlier September date for this gathering might be more conducive to some to travel the distance/amortise the expense. Regards Heather --- ## Post #7 by @heather.leslie And now I’ve just discovered that ISO TC215 is scheduled in Vienna on Sept 24-28… There’s another opportunity for some to combine travel. Heather --- ## Post #8 by @Stefan_Sauermann Yeah, Vienna is just great. Be assured that the would will be warm here! Greetings, Heather Leslie schrieb: --- ## Post #9 by @Stefan_Sauermann Sorry: I meant that the welcome will be warm here. Greetings from Vienna, ;) Stefan Sauermann schrieb: --- ## Post #10 by @Richard_Dixon_Hughes I think TC215 is presently scheduled for week of Sep 24 in Vienna (subject to final confirmation). You should probably try to avoid clashing with that given 13606 overlap - but could aim to follow it. Richard DH --- ## Post #11 by @thomas.beale thanks Richard, good to know\. \- thomas --- ## Post #12 by @Miroslav_Koncar Hi all, I think this is a very positive initiative. In my capacity as the HL7 Croatia Chair, but perhaps even more importantly, ISHEP ([www.ishep.org](http://www.ishep.org/)) Conference Programme Committee Chair, we would be interested in exploring the opportunities to combining efforts and supporting this event. Few important remarks - ISHEP is a regional two day conference that attracts about 100 experts from Slovenia, Croatia and neighboring countries, and discusses best practices around eHealth implementations. It is very much hands on practice, targeted workshops and implementation type of discussions, where the aim is to raise awareness and knowledge with local communities on European and world wide best practices on eHealth implementation. It is usually done under auspices of two Ministries of Health, and supported by professional community such as HL7, Croatian and Slovenian Society of Medical Informatics, EFMI, etc. The conference usually takes place in September-October time frame, and for the last two years it has been done in Croatia, whilst the preliminary agreement for 2012 is Slovenia. I think program-wise we would be able to combine the two efforts. The first day is a plenary one, where we have keynotes, selected presentations and panel discussion, whereas the 2nd day is several parallel workshops. If we would combine the efforts, we could set up quite a powerful plenary and define several parallel sessions on 2nd day (e.g. RIMBAA? CIMI? EHR Certification?). Please check out the ISHEP web site for further information, and let me know your initial thoughts. Thanks, all the best Miroslav Koncar Miroslav Koncar PhD | Oracle Healthcare Business Development Director, HL7 Croatia Chair Oracle Eastern and Central Europe, Middle East and Africa Budmanijeva 1/IV, 10000 Zagreb | Croatia Mobile: +385 99 3212253 | Phone: +385 1 6323206 Email: [miroslav.koncar@oracle.com](mailto:miroslav.koncar@oracle.com) --- ## Post #13 by @ian.mcnicoll Hi Miroslav, This is a very interesting and attractive suggestion\. I have looked at the ISHEP 2011 content and there is certainly a degree of overlap of interest, particular from national agencies, on which we can build\. Sharing resources and sponsor input would certainly make much more sense than accidentally finding ourselves in competition\. My only concern might be, from an openEHR perspective, that we lose some clear community definition, particularly as this is a new venture for us\. I am sure with careful planning and marketing, the identity of each party/conference could be maintained\. Ian Dr Ian McNicoll office \+44 \(0\)1536 414 994 fax \+44 \(0\)1536 516317 mobile \+44 \(0\)775 209 7859 skype ianmcnicoll ian\.mcnicoll@oceaninformatics\.com Clinical Modelling Consultant, Ocean Informatics, UK Director/Clinical Knowledge Editor openEHR Foundation www\.openehr\.org/knowledge Honorary Senior Research Associate, CHIME, UCL SCIMP Working Group, NHS Scotland BCS Primary Health Care www\.phcsg\.org --- ## Post #14 by @Miroslav_Koncar Hi Ian, thanks for the comments. The good side, or an opportunity if you will, is that we fully control the content and the format of ISHEP conference. Basically, if the idea would be welcomed by the openEHR community, we would further welcome experts from this group to join the organization board and programme committee. In that way we would be able to leverage from the network, and hopefully secure good speakers on the panel session, as well as workshop leaders on the 2nd day. All other details - proper labeling, organizational support from not-for-profit organizations and Government bodies, sponsors, etc - will be orchestrated in the process. Thanks, all the best Miroslav --- ## Post #15 by @thomas.beale I think this could be interesting to consider as well. It is a requirement for us i think to make this work for 'openEHR', since I think most people in the community would agree with the need for a face to face meeting. Having said that, I think we certainly want to have a) very practical workshops and b) sessions / workshops on e-health topics to which openEHR is connected, e.g. 13606 convergence, decision support using AQL and service models for the EHR, openEHR/CDA transformation (to name a few). Obviously this conference can't replace other conferences that are completely open in terms of what kind of models & standards underpin the implementations. If you think an openEHR-flavoured ISHEP conference would make sense, let's talk further. Am interested in the thoughts of others on this. - thomas --- ## Post #16 by @ian.mcnicoll I do like the idea but I would prefer that each conference has its own very clear identity, albeit that some sessions could be shared, along with venue etc\. A couple of the MIE conferences have operated this way with local informatics conferences being co\-hosted/located with the European event, with some joint sessions but otherwise a very clear individual agenda and focus\. Ian Dr Ian McNicoll office \+44 \(0\)1536 414 994 fax \+44 \(0\)1536 516317 mobile \+44 \(0\)775 209 7859 skype ianmcnicoll ian\.mcnicoll@oceaninformatics\.com Clinical Modelling Consultant, Ocean Informatics, UK Director/Clinical Knowledge Editor openEHR Foundation www\.openehr\.org/knowledge Honorary Senior Research Associate, CHIME, UCL SCIMP Working Group, NHS Scotland BCS Primary Health Care www\.phcsg\.org --- ## Post #17 by @thomas.beale Right \- that could be a solution\. \- thomas --- ## Post #18 by @system Hi all, Can I resume this topic? I am much looking forward to meeting this conference\. I know there are many problems, but just to do it very great for us\. Regards, Shinji --- ## Post #19 by @jose_iglesias Hi all, Good initiative! I would be interested in the conference! Is there new information about the conference, maybe an approximate date? Jose L. Iglesias. 2012/3/2 Shinji KOBAYASHI <[skoba@moss.gr.jp](mailto:skoba@moss.gr.jp)> --- ## Post #20 by @system Hi Shinji We could not get sponsorship for the conference, which is a shame\. For that reason it looks like that will not happen until we have Associates and some core funding\. I would like to organise some Google handouts at different times each month \- probably 3/month suiting Asia, Europe/Africa and the Americas\. Would others be interested in meeting for a chat every month, with Video\. We could use GoToWebinar for some more formal gatherings\. Cheers, Sam --- ## Post #21 by @Dr_Carola_Hullin_Luc Happy to help this initiative in LAC. IMIA LAC assist this type of communities. __**Dra. Hullin Lucay Cossio**__ __**(RN,BN,Hons,PhD,Post Doc)**__ __**IMIA LAC President**__ __**www.imia-lac.net**__ --- ## Post #22 by @system Hi Sam, As regards to world\-wide economic recession, getting fund for R&D is far difficult\. I am challenging some funds from our government or funds in Japan, such as this\. http://www.jsps.go.jp/english/e-meeting/index.html This fund aims to support conference in Japan, but I think it would be better in Singapore or Kuala Lumpur with less cost\. However, lottery might be more promising\. sigh\. Regards, Shinji --- **Canonical:** https://discourse.openehr.org/t/openehr-conference-proposal-for-lake-bled-slovenia-2012-poll/15137 **Original content:** https://discourse.openehr.org/t/openehr-conference-proposal-for-lake-bled-slovenia-2012-poll/15137