# Mind map module **Category:** [Technical (archive)](https://discourse.openehr.org/c/technical-archive/156) **Created:** 2012-01-18 11:14 UTC **Views:** 2 **Replies:** 8 **URL:** https://discourse.openehr.org/t/mind-map-module/15136 --- ## Post #1 by @Jostein_Ven Everybody, The module in the CKM for visualising arketypes as mind maps - is it open source and how can we get access to it? Is there a plan to in --- ## Post #2 by @Jostein_Ven Everybody, The module for visualising archetypes as mind maps in the CKM - is it open source and if so how can one get access to it? It would be great to have this integrated with the archetype editor - has anyone attempted to do this? Regards, Jostein Ven senior adviser, Norwegian Directorate of Health (Apologies if this e-mail reaches you twice - had some problems sending this to the list) --- ## Post #3 by @ian.mcnicoll Hi Jostein, Sebastian can confirm this but I understand that CKM uses an open Freemind viewer browser component\. There is also some branched archetype editor source code that was developed by one of Sebastian's students to add mindmapping facility\. Unfortunately this is now very out of date with the Trunk code and relies on a closed \.Net coding component with a per\-developer licence so cannot formally be part of the openEHR development\. If someone was interested in doing this work, however, I am sure Ocean could find a way to assist\. I wonder if adding this functionality directly to AE is in any case the sensible approach\. it might be interesting to see if someone could develop a simple web\-service that would take an uploaded archetype and display the result in the Freemind browser\. Might be a good student project\. Ian Dr Ian McNicoll office \+44 \(0\)1536 414 994 fax \+44 \(0\)1536 516317 mobile \+44 \(0\)775 209 7859 skype ianmcnicoll ian\.mcnicoll@oceaninformatics\.com Clinical Modelling Consultant, Ocean Informatics, UK Director/Clinical Knowledge Editor openEHR Foundation www\.openehr\.org/knowledge Honorary Senior Research Associate, CHIME, UCL SCIMP Working Group, NHS Scotland BCS Primary Health Care www\.phcsg\.org --- ## Post #4 by @system > Hi Jostein, > > Sebastian can confirm this but I understand that CKM uses an open > Freemind viewer browser component\. Essentially yes, it is the Freemind Flash Browser\. The source files for Freemind is a fairly simple XML as you can see when you download the freemind files for the archetype \(There is a link underneath the mindmap\)\. This can also be imported by e\.g\. XMind\. > There is also some branched archetype editor source code that was > developed by one of Sebastian's students to add mindmapping facility\. > Unfortunately this is now very out of date with the Trunk code and > relies on a closed \.Net coding component with a per\-developer licence > so cannot formally be part of the openEHR development\. If someone was > interested in doing this work, however, I am sure Ocean could find a > way to assist\. This uses a different technology though and as you said a nice \.NET library that unfortunately is not open source\. Also, this code makes direct use of fields in the Archetype Editor \(i\.e\. not from a parsed ADL file or the like\) and thus is not directly usable\. Sebastian --- ## Post #5 by @yampeku We have included in LinkEHR a mindmap \(freemind\) generic transformation based on AOM and we also use Freemind Flash Browser to visualize it\. Visualization is not the same as the one in CKM \(as I told is generic, see this example http://i.imgur.com/FlLFY.png) and if you pass our LinkEHR reference model documentation object you can generate a 'prettier' one \(as we already do with HL7 CDA or EN13606, see this example http://i.imgur.com/YykuX.png). We have been asked recently to open this part of the code \(Java\) and we are going to do this in a short time\. --- ## Post #6 by @Linhardt_Peter Hi Thomas We have many times discussed, that for physicians and others, whop are not very experienced in coded transcript Is the MindMap like visualisation very helpfull to understand and follow dependencies of Archetypes, and we would Like to support the approach to utilise at lest Freemind browser fro the CKM Thank you Ing\. Peter Linhardt, PhD\., Výskumné centrum STU Riaditeľ Slovenská technická univerzita v Bratislave Vazovova 5 812 43 Bratislava tel\. \+421 918 669 121 peter\.linhardt@stuba\.sk www\.stuba\.sk Think environment before you print\. --- ## Post #7 by @system Hi Peter, Sorry Peter, I am not sure I understand your request. Are you suggesting a change to the CKM freemind browser or do you want to integrate CKM mindmaps into the Archetype Editor? Can you clarify please? Best regards Sebastian [details="(attachments)"] ![oceanlogo.png|84x82](upload://2EtFgZ1bS4JNl1d51FusTB7hg8M.png) [/details] --- ## Post #8 by @Linhardt_Peter Good morning Sebastian We are talking two diferent features. 1. Integration of freemind mindmap viewer to CKM to visualise the archetype (possibly also template ), which is I guess an easy task 2. Integration of MindMap into editor for creating archetype form in MinMap created archetype. I guess thjs is much more complex and Expensive feature of the editor I am led by the level of understanding for non IT staff, dealing with helath informatics and archetypes, because I have experienced, that Visualisation of relation between elemnets of archetype in the MindMap environment gives much better overview, understanding And level of accpetation for the helth professionals, managers and other people, involved in transofrmation of helath record form dB environment into archetype based solutions. Best regards [details="(attachments)"] ![image001.jpg|70x72](upload://eXggL7PA4P7nKOxAYbI9GBujxjP.jpeg) [/details] --- ## Post #9 by @thomas.beale I completely agree. I became a big fan of well-designed mindmaps (they are not all the same) after seeing Sebastian's great work on the CKM (at least in part driven by clinician requests, so they helped solve their own problem as well). Some thoughts on a [recent blog-post](http://wolandscat.net/2011/06/08/dcms-can-they-look-good-and-be-computable/). - thomas --- **Canonical:** https://discourse.openehr.org/t/mind-map-module/15136 **Original content:** https://discourse.openehr.org/t/mind-map-module/15136