We are translating an archetype (body temperature, specifically the measurement location) to lay mans terms. I’m struggling where to put the layman’s terms: in the archetype or in a template, since some users will prefer more official (latin) names and to me it makes most sense to put those latin w…

I assume you are talking about something like ‘axilla’ <> ‘armpit’ . If so, for me the answer is that I have never been asked for this. I can see the value but I can also imagine that it could be a nightmare of management, across multiple dialects. Templates is probably the way but we don’t right no…

Thanks for the answer. Yes it is about creating a translation axilla (medical Dutch) and armpit (“oksel”, layman’s Dutch). I’d like to do both translations in the archetype for reusability purposes. And specify in a template per element which translation to use. Good to know is that we don’t have a…

I have seen needs for this in some contexts too and have mainly thought of shared reusable templates as a solution (so far). Since templates can be included within other templates, I’d guess wrapping for example the Body Temperature archetype in a very open (in this a case Dutch Layman-term) body t…

Hi Erik, That makes sense but I am aware that in the past there has been significant reluctance to overload the template layer with what might be regarded as UI directives. However, there is a counter argument that there is something in the middle which is really implementation guidance , not UI di…

I suggested trying to use the template model, partly since templates (e.g. small ones at OBSERVATION-level rather than at COMPOSITION-level) can be practical and suitable also for shared national use cases (if nationally shared), but also because the layman terms are linguistic variants of content t…

Reuseing templates feels like the right direction! So what would this look like in this specific usecase: For the body temperature archetype Specifically the location of measurement (local) value set: If I want to make translations of both the Dutch medical(Latin) and Dutch layman’s terms, where…

[image] joostholslag: If I want to make translations of both the Dutch medical(Latin) and Dutch layman’s terms, where do I put each? And what would the template for both use cases look like? I think that remains a tricky question!! Getting it in the data in the CDR is not an issue. How you e…

I just remembered that there is no tooling support for changing the texts of internally coded multiple-choice values for such as the choises to go under “Location of measurement”. I have not checked if this is a model/spec constraint at template level or just not yet implemented in template tooling.…

Wikipedia has a “simplified English” version. Could we use a similar concept? Translations into “simplified Dutch”, “simplified English”, “simplified Norwegian”, etc?

That was sort of what I was hinting at (but too lazy to explore/explain)!! @Silje - I’m not sure if we can support these technically. I suspect the problem will be that there is actually not a clear separation of when to use the technical term and when to use the simplfied alternative. This feels…

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heather.leslie (Heather Leslie) 28 January 2021 22:40 16

There have been attempts to develop a consumer health terminology, but I’m not aware of any being available such that we could do mappings to SNOMED or translations

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