# Karkinos Healthcare join openEHR as Industry Partners

**URL:** https://discourse.openehr.org/t/karkinos-healthcare-join-openehr-as-industry-partners/2051
**Category:** openEHR news
**Created:** [9 November 2021 11:43 UTC](https://discourse.openehr.org/t/karkinos-healthcare-join-openehr-as-industry-partners/2051 "2021-11-09T11:43:20Z")
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### Author: ![JillRiley](https://discourse.openehr.org/user_avatar/discourse.openehr.org/jillriley/32/4359_2.png) [@JillRiley](https://discourse.openehr.org/u/JillRiley)
#### Post date: [9 November 2021 11:43 UTC](https://discourse.openehr.org/t/karkinos-healthcare-join-openehr-as-industry-partners/2051/1 "2021-11-09T11:43:21Z")

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We welcome Karkinos Healthcare who have joined openEHR as Gold Industry Partners.

Based in Mumbai City India, Karkinos is a comprehensive oncology platform that provides world class cancer care, whose mission is to provide healthcare solutions where almost no person is deprived of care, for lack of access or affordability.

CEO Mr Venkataramanan Ramachandran said _“We are pleased to be an Industry Partner for the openEHR community. Karkinos has chosen openEHR standard for building our Oncology focused technology platform. This enables us build an open data standards based oncology specific clinical data repository offering flexible, future proof and interoperable way of maintaining clinical records."_

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### Author: ![joostholslag](https://discourse.openehr.org/user_avatar/discourse.openehr.org/joostholslag/32/1981_2.png) [@joostholslag](https://discourse.openehr.org/u/joostholslag)
#### Post date: [11 November 2021 06:50 UTC](https://discourse.openehr.org/t/karkinos-healthcare-join-openehr-as-industry-partners/2051/2 "2021-11-11T06:50:21Z")

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I’d love to learn more about their plans to implement openEHR.

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### Author: ![JillRiley](https://discourse.openehr.org/user_avatar/discourse.openehr.org/jillriley/32/4359_2.png) [@JillRiley](https://discourse.openehr.org/u/JillRiley)
#### Post date: [11 November 2021 12:41 UTC](https://discourse.openehr.org/t/karkinos-healthcare-join-openehr-as-industry-partners/2051/3 "2021-11-11T12:41:14Z")

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Hopefully they will be joining the discussion on Discourse soon, but I will drop them a note as I’m sure you are not alone in wanting to know more.

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### Author: ![ian.mcnicoll](https://discourse.openehr.org/user_avatar/discourse.openehr.org/ian.mcnicoll/32/4430_2.png) [@ian.mcnicoll](https://discourse.openehr.org/u/ian.mcnicoll)
#### Post date: [11 November 2021 13:17 UTC](https://discourse.openehr.org/t/karkinos-healthcare-join-openehr-as-industry-partners/2051/4 "2021-11-11T13:17:53Z")

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I did wonder if for all new paid members we should a have a more formal on-boarding process/welcome call to say hello and perhaps Jill and one other board member to talk them through things like Discourse, CKM, program groups, Board comms etc.

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### Author: ![thomas.beale](https://discourse.openehr.org/user_avatar/discourse.openehr.org/thomas.beale/32/35_2.png) [@thomas.beale](https://discourse.openehr.org/u/thomas.beale)
#### Post date: [11 November 2021 13:57 UTC](https://discourse.openehr.org/t/karkinos-healthcare-join-openehr-as-industry-partners/2051/5 "2021-11-11T13:57:41Z")

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I think we should run a new members webinar every 3 months

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### Author: ![bna](https://discourse.openehr.org/user_avatar/discourse.openehr.org/bna/32/1994_2.png) [@bna](https://discourse.openehr.org/u/bna)
#### Post date: [11 November 2021 14:54 UTC](https://discourse.openehr.org/t/karkinos-healthcare-join-openehr-as-industry-partners/2051/6 "2021-11-11T14:54:00Z")

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And perhaps 10 minutes at a Board meeting?

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### Author: ![JillRiley](https://discourse.openehr.org/user_avatar/discourse.openehr.org/jillriley/32/4359_2.png) [@JillRiley](https://discourse.openehr.org/u/JillRiley)
#### Post date: [11 November 2021 17:29 UTC](https://discourse.openehr.org/t/karkinos-healthcare-join-openehr-as-industry-partners/2051/7 "2021-11-11T17:29:00Z")

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All great ideas, thanks everyone I’ll look at implementing. @rajs is on Discourse and has seen the postings. I emailed him earlier and he is going to post something in response I think when he has a minute.

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### Author: ![JillRiley](https://discourse.openehr.org/user_avatar/discourse.openehr.org/jillriley/32/4359_2.png) [@JillRiley](https://discourse.openehr.org/u/JillRiley)
#### Post date: [11 November 2021 17:30 UTC](https://discourse.openehr.org/t/karkinos-healthcare-join-openehr-as-industry-partners/2051/8 "2021-11-11T17:30:46Z")

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I think waiting for a 3-monthly call might be a bit long. Better to onboard early?

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### Author: ![ian.mcnicoll](https://discourse.openehr.org/user_avatar/discourse.openehr.org/ian.mcnicoll/32/4430_2.png) [@ian.mcnicoll](https://discourse.openehr.org/u/ian.mcnicoll)
#### Post date: [11 November 2021 17:34 UTC](https://discourse.openehr.org/t/karkinos-healthcare-join-openehr-as-industry-partners/2051/9 "2021-11-11T17:34:09Z")

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Both might be useful and hi @rajs !! Sorry , when I posted, I thought I was on an internal conversation,so too much use of ‘they’!!

Welcome to the community and it would be good to meet you to find out more about your work.

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### Author: ![rajs](https://discourse.openehr.org/user_avatar/discourse.openehr.org/rajs/32/801_2.png) [@rajs](https://discourse.openehr.org/u/rajs)
#### Post date: [11 November 2021 18:53 UTC](https://discourse.openehr.org/t/karkinos-healthcare-join-openehr-as-industry-partners/2051/10 "2021-11-11T18:53:17Z")

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Thank you Jill and all others for the warm welcome.

I along with a few other colleagues (@Dr_Anjali_Kulkarni @sangeeta.nbose @anupama ) have been part of this helpful community for sometime now.

We are creating a distributed cancer care network (that makes cancer care available close to home across India) powered by technology platform. The tech platform has various elements to it including a onco-specific CDR, onco-specific clinical decision support system based on guidelines curated by our clinicians, onco-specific care plans etc. The onco-specific CDR is based on openEHR.

The approach we are taking is that **Data at rest uses openEHR** and **Data in motion uses FHIR**.

We have just started on our journey and would need all the help from the community.

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### Author: ![thomas.beale](https://discourse.openehr.org/user_avatar/discourse.openehr.org/thomas.beale/32/35_2.png) [@thomas.beale](https://discourse.openehr.org/u/thomas.beale)
#### Post date: [11 November 2021 21:29 UTC](https://discourse.openehr.org/t/karkinos-healthcare-join-openehr-as-industry-partners/2051/11 "2021-11-11T21:29:02Z")

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> [@rajs](#):
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> We have just started on our journey and would need all the help from the community

Welcome All@Karkinos, we are certainly here to help in every way we can!

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### Author: ![thomas.beale](https://discourse.openehr.org/user_avatar/discourse.openehr.org/thomas.beale/32/35_2.png) [@thomas.beale](https://discourse.openehr.org/u/thomas.beale)
#### Post date: [11 November 2021 21:36 UTC](https://discourse.openehr.org/t/karkinos-healthcare-join-openehr-as-industry-partners/2051/12 "2021-11-11T21:36:57Z")

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> [@rajs](#):
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> The approach we are taking is that **Data at rest uses openEHR** and **Data in motion uses FHIR**.

I will just add one thing: data in motion also uses openEHR AQL, and with native openEHR you have 20x clinical data coverage of FHIR 😉 Which is why most Apps running over openEHR back-ends just talk native openEHR.

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### Author: ![joostholslag](https://discourse.openehr.org/user_avatar/discourse.openehr.org/joostholslag/32/1981_2.png) [@joostholslag](https://discourse.openehr.org/u/joostholslag)
#### Post date: [12 November 2021 08:29 UTC](https://discourse.openehr.org/t/karkinos-healthcare-join-openehr-as-industry-partners/2051/13 "2021-11-12T08:29:21Z")

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Welcom @rajs. Thank you for sharing your plans. Really cool openEHR is getting more usage in India. Apart from the great work of @Sidharth_Ramesh.  
I wondered about the ‘openEHR based onco specific CDR’. Are you planning to build your own CDR or use off the shelve?  
Good luck on your mission of distributed oncology care! I hope the openEHR tech and community can support your journey.

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### Author: ![Dileep\_V\_S](https://discourse.openehr.org/user_avatar/discourse.openehr.org/dileep_v_s/32/664_2.png) [@Dileep\_V\_S](https://discourse.openehr.org/u/Dileep_V_S)
#### Post date: [12 November 2021 08:29 UTC](https://discourse.openehr.org/t/karkinos-healthcare-join-openehr-as-industry-partners/2051/14 "2021-11-12T08:29:26Z")

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Welcome Karkinos team to the openEHR community and congratulations on your joining as an openEHR member. It is great to see openEHR adoption finally beginning to happen in India.

regards

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### Author: ![Dileep\_V\_S](https://discourse.openehr.org/user_avatar/discourse.openehr.org/dileep_v_s/32/664_2.png) [@Dileep\_V\_S](https://discourse.openehr.org/u/Dileep_V_S)
#### Post date: [12 November 2021 08:29 UTC](https://discourse.openehr.org/t/karkinos-healthcare-join-openehr-as-industry-partners/2051/15 "2021-11-12T08:29:37Z")

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+1

If your distributed system uses openEHR CDR everywhere, using native openEHR contributions/compositions for data exchange will make it simpler and richer.

regards

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### Author: ![krsatyam01](https://discourse.openehr.org/user_avatar/discourse.openehr.org/krsatyam01/32/780_2.png) [@krsatyam01](https://discourse.openehr.org/u/krsatyam01)
#### Post date: [12 November 2021 09:10 UTC](https://discourse.openehr.org/t/karkinos-healthcare-join-openehr-as-industry-partners/2051/16 "2021-11-12T09:10:22Z")

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We wished we could have such uniformity. However the ground reality is that fhir is the chosen medium of exchange for national programs in India and vendors find it easier to implement .

OpenEHR community has to spread more awareness of this wonderful standard. Ultimately it’s the ecosystem that drives the adoption.

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### Author: ![rajs](https://discourse.openehr.org/user_avatar/discourse.openehr.org/rajs/32/801_2.png) [@rajs](https://discourse.openehr.org/u/rajs)
#### Post date: [12 November 2021 10:14 UTC](https://discourse.openehr.org/t/karkinos-healthcare-join-openehr-as-industry-partners/2051/17 "2021-11-12T10:14:13Z")

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Thank you @joostholslag. We are looking at leveraging EHRBase as our CDR.

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### Author: ![rajs](https://discourse.openehr.org/user_avatar/discourse.openehr.org/rajs/32/801_2.png) [@rajs](https://discourse.openehr.org/u/rajs)
#### Post date: [12 November 2021 10:14 UTC](https://discourse.openehr.org/t/karkinos-healthcare-join-openehr-as-industry-partners/2051/18 "2021-11-12T10:14:21Z")

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Prefer to stay away from openEHR/FHIR debates, at least for now 🙂

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### Author: ![rajs](https://discourse.openehr.org/user_avatar/discourse.openehr.org/rajs/32/801_2.png) [@rajs](https://discourse.openehr.org/u/rajs)
#### Post date: [12 November 2021 10:16 UTC](https://discourse.openehr.org/t/karkinos-healthcare-join-openehr-as-industry-partners/2051/19 "2021-11-12T10:16:26Z")

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Hi @Dileep_V_S how I wish one standard is used everywhere. But as you are aware, there is hardly any such thing in the country.
