# informal poll: openEHR conference **Category:** [Technical (archive)](https://discourse.openehr.org/c/technical-archive/156) **Created:** 2009-11-27 16:25 UTC **Views:** 21 **Replies:** 46 **URL:** https://discourse.openehr.org/t/informal-poll-openehr-conference/14943 --- ## Post #1 by @thomas.beale This is an initial informal question to the community about interest in an openEHR conference / meeting, probably initially located in Europe. Possibly activities: - presentations / papers on commercial & academic projects - technical working design sessions for major upcoming specifications - clinical modelling design sessions / presentations / discussions / debates - meetings aimed at making decisions about the running & governance of openEHR, enabling future organisational improvement - professional and academic networking activities - some purely social activities. purely as an example of a nice location at which social and outdoor activities can take place, Lake Bled in Slovenia has been suggested, of course there are many other wonderful locations. I have heard many requests for a conference over the last few years, so I wonder what the reaction & interest of the community to this suggestion would be. - thomas beale --- ## Post #2 by @system An international airport/train station nearby would be good, it saves days of traveling. Bert Op 27-11-09 17:25, Thomas Beale schreef: --- ## Post #3 by @Anton_Brass Thomas Beale schrieb: > This is an initial informal question to the community about interest in an openEHR conference / meeting, probably initially located in Europe. Possibly activities: > > - presentations / papers on commercial & academic projects > - technical working design sessions for major upcoming specifications > - clinical modelling design sessions / presentations / discussions / debates > - meetings aimed at making decisions about the running & governance of openEHR, enabling future organisational improvement > > - professional and academic networking activities > - some purely social activities. > purely as an example of a nice location at which social and outdoor activities can take place, Lake Bled in Slovenia has been suggested, of course there are many other wonderful locations. I have heard many requests for a conference over the last few years, so I wonder what the reaction & interest of the community to this suggestion would be. > > - thomas beale Hey there, this is a great idea! Best regards from Munich Anton Brass --- ## Post #4 by @mikael I guess that the social activities would be quite important for the community and they are hard to organize on airports and train stations. I therefore vote for other locations than airports and train stations. Greetings, Mikael --- ## Post #5 by @richard.kavanagh Hi Thomas. I think a conference would be a useful mechanism for the community to meet and share ideas/experiences. It would get my vote. Regards, Richard Kavanagh --- ## Post #6 by @thomas.beale I forgot to mention: personally I would like it to be an environmentally conscious event (in as much as any conference could be), and one thing I would at least try for is a destination that allow many people to go by train rather than by plane. Sam and I once did London - Maastricht (which by the way is also a good location) on the train in 7.5h (1.5h wait in Brussels) compared to what we calculated as 5h by plane. But we got 6h work done, and 1h drinking Belgian beer. I consider that a successful journey. Of course not much can be done about long haul flying from the US and down-under. Another priority for me would be the idea that it would not repeat every few months like standards meetings, maybe not even every year (a bi-annual event maybe?) - so we could afford to spend some time together as a community. Also, I would put as much value on the networking and social side of things as on the 'business of openEHR' - which means finding a nice destination, one that works perfectly well if people want to have a holiday, with kids, partners etc. The cost might also be an important consideration for most people, although if it were say every 2 years, it may not matter as much as for standards meetings which just keep happening. these are just personal thoughts; it could only happen if enough people in the community would sign up to the idea to make it viable. - thomas beale Mikael Nyström wrote: [details="(attachments)"] ![OceanC\_small.png|74x72](upload://5I367QG2SMJUp18Pt3jF6yz13Ey.png) [/details] --- ## Post #7 by @Koray_Atalag Hi Tom, having such a social get together would be very nice\.\.\.\.I'd vote for Amsterdam :\) Cheers, \-koray --- ## Post #8 by @system If it will be Amsterdam, I might throw a party with good food, beer, wine and non\-alcoholic\-drinks, I live 10km from Amsterdam, every hour four trains to the village I live\. But I agree with other possibilities too, if it is not too far from Amsterdam, within Europe is OK for me \(best near a town\)\. regards, Bert Koray Atalag schreef: --- ## Post #9 by @mikael Hi, We from Linköping University are preliminary interested. Greetings, Mikael --- ## Post #10 by @Tim_Cook2 Having something like this just before or just following an existing health informatics related conference in the same or very nearby location; saves time and money as well as possibly attracting new attendees\. \-\-Tim --- ## Post #11 by @system I agree with Tim, better is to combine our event with another already existing, like EFMI? And also to offer access through web and/or video conference. For them, like us from South America who won´t be able to travel to Europe. Cheers Jussara --- ## Post #12 by @Hans_Demski1 Hello, good idea to have a meeting point for people with interest in openEHR. **EFMI STC 2010 Conference** ([http://www.sky.is/efmi-stc-2010-.html](http://www.sky.is/efmi-stc-2010-.html)) this year will take place in Reykjavík, June 2-4. With a theme excellently fitting: **Seamless care - safe care. The challenges of interoperability and patient safety in health care**. If Iceland is appropriate for the planned event has to be discussed. I could imagine that in spring one finds a stimulating environment there. On the other hand, travelling there is not as easy as reaching to other places already mentioned. The main EFMI conference is paused next year as the MedInfo takes place in 2010. brgds Hans Jussara Rotzsch schrieb: --- ## Post #13 by @Hugh_Leslie1 Anyone interested in a google wave invite? Send me an email. regards Hugh --- ## Post #14 by @Hugh_Leslie1 Anyone interested in a Google Wave Invite? Send me an email. regards Hugh --- ## Post #15 by @adrian_gomez YesPlease Adrian Gomez hospital italiano --- ## Post #16 by @Dr_med_Christophe_B1 Thank you for a Google wave invite, please Best regards Dr. med. Christophe BRON Chief Medical Officer Emergency Medical Care, a member of the AXA group At the Riverside Clinic 21, Harbour Road Port Harcourt, Nigeria Email: [emc.phc@gmail.com](mailto:emc.phc@gmail.com) Tel: +234.(0)803.306.38.34 +234.(0)807.700.74.75 +234.(0)803.710.04.89 VHF: 165.76875 - Call sign: Echo Mike [http://www.emc-emergencymedicalcare.com](http://www.emc-emergencymedicalcare.com) --- ## Post #17 by @Inger_Wejerfelt Yes, please Best regards, Inger --- ## Post #18 by @Inger_Wejerfelt Hi, Also we from the Swedish national work are interested Best regards , Inger --- ## Post #19 by @thomas.beale Jussara Rotzsch wrote: --- ## Post #20 by @Tiago_Ferreira I would like an invite for Google Wave!! Thank you in advance 2009/11/30 Hugh Leslie <[hugh.leslie@oceaninformatics.com](mailto:hugh.leslie@oceaninformatics.com)> --- ## Post #21 by @Tim_Cook2 > For the web/video thing \- I used to be in favour of this, but it has > been used in the last 2 IHTSDO conferences \(good on them for having a > go\), and it failed miserably But streaming it live / recording it is still helpful and not disruptive\. > I wonder if there is some kind of global conference calendar, where we > can see all conferences in e\-health for the next 12 months? http://www.hiww.org/ I think is as close as you get to that kind of resource\. \-\-Tim --- ## Post #22 by @Seref Even if this is slightly off topic considering the original post that started this topic, I'd like to suggest another alternative to streaming/phone calls etc. [http://videolectures.net/](http://videolectures.net/) is a fantastic source of information with video recordings of key academic events. Instead of streaming which would require a lot of effort & infrastructure, if we can simply record the event, we can submit it to videolectures (I can't see any reason for them to reject). Total cost is just tri-pod and a camera, and some work on slides and captured video, which can take place after the event. My 2 cents... Kind regards Seref --- ## Post #23 by @thomas.beale Tim Cook wrote: > ``` > > ``` > > > ``` > > For the web/video thing - I used to be in favour of this, but it has > > been used in the last 2 IHTSDO conferences (good on them for having a > > go), and it failed miserably > > > > ``` > > ``` > > But streaming it live / recording it is still helpful and not > disruptive. > > ``` yes, I did think at IHTSDO that it might be ok; although setting up the equipment was quite disruptive in many cases. As long as this could be done non-disruptively I would be in favour of it. - thomas --- ## Post #24 by @Marc_CUGGIA Hi I'am interested Thks for advance MArc 2009/11/30 Hugh Leslie <[hugh.leslie@oceaninformatics.com](mailto:hugh.leslie@oceaninformatics.com)> --- ## Post #25 by @Puvanendran_SenthilR > Hi all,


If any one else looking for google wave invitation, let me know your gmail address as i also have few more invitations.


Regards
Senthil

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> From: Marc Cuggia
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> Date: Monday, November 30, 2009, 8:28 PM
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> Hi
> I'am interested
> Thks for advance
> MArc
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> 2009/11/30 Hugh Leslie
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> > Anyone interested in a google wave invite? Send me an email.
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> > regards Hugh
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| --- ## Post #26 by @Marc_CUGGIA My address is [marc.cuggia@gmail.com](mailto:marc.cuggia@gmail.com) thks 2009/11/30 Puvanendran Senthilruban <[senthilruban@yahoo.com](mailto:senthilruban@yahoo.com)> --- ## Post #27 by @Helma Yes please\. Bye, Helma --- ## Post #28 by @Pauline_Sweetman Owing to lack of funding I am unlikely to be able to attend a conference outside the UK, but would attend a virtual one if streaming could be done. Thanks Pauline **Pauline Sweetman** +44 793 266 1678 Website: [Pauline Sweetman](http://bit.ly/46ZaDE) Twitter: [www.twitter.com/psweetman](http://www.twitter.com/psweetman) --- ## Post #29 by @lavanian Dear Dr Hugh, I'd love an invite. regards, Dr Lavanian MBBS, MD --- ## Post #30 by @Allan_Palmer I got lucky and already have an account. Anyone wants to have a play please invite me in - [medicalmusings@googlewave.com](mailto:medicalmusings@googlewave.com) -Allan Palmer Anaesthetist, Brisbane, Australia --- ## Post #31 by @Stef_Verlinden1 \+1 \(but any other location where we can have both a good meeting and a good social event will do\)\. I like the train suggestion\. Cheers, Stef --- ## Post #32 by @Thilo_Schuler1 \+2 Amsterdam or anywhere in central EU is fine\. I am a strong believer in social activities\. They could even involve beer\.\.\. ;\) Cheers \(what else could I say but this universal word\) \-thilo --- ## Post #33 by @ian.mcnicoll Central Europe (and beer) sounds a good match to me :-) Certainly Amsterdam would be good from the perspective of easy transport. Ian Dr Ian McNicoll office / fax +44(0)141 560 4657 mobile +44 (0)775 209 7859 skype ianmcnicoll [ian.mcnicoll@oceaninformatics.com](mailto:ian.mcnicoll@oceaninformatics.com) [ian@mcmi.co.uk](mailto:ian@mcmi.co.uk) Clinical Analyst Ocean Informatics openEHR Archetype Editorial Group Member BCS Primary Health Care SG Group [www.phcsg.org](http://www.phcsg.org) / BCS Health Scotland 2009/12/1 Thilo Schuler <[thilo.schuler@gmail.com](mailto:thilo.schuler@gmail.com)> --- ## Post #34 by @Hugh_Leslie1 I was thinking Melbourne... We have good beer here and we are not far from a train station... :) --- ## Post #35 by @Derek_Meyer U van Amsterdam has a strong informatics dept. --- ## Post #36 by @Thilo_Schuler1 I like VB, but the trains are not very reliable\.\.\. ;\) --- ## Post #37 by @system How about Stockholm? Close to nature \(nice lakes etc\) and good railway systems, plus a quite bit openEHR use here =\) Cheers, Rong --- ## Post #38 by @Hans_Demski1 If we can't make it to Iceland, i'd like to go to Stockholm and see openEHR in action ;-) brgds Hans Rong Chen schrieb: --- ## Post #39 by @system Although first place of the openEHR conference will be located in Europe, we will bit the host of the second openEHR conference in Japan\. Railways are much reliable anywhere\. We have good cuisine, good beer, sushi, sake, safe city, and good technology\. We can stream the conference via the Internet\. But JPY is appriciating too rapid now\. too bad for international conference\. Otherwise, we had a seminar mainly about the openEHR\. It gathered more than 50 people and students in Japan from 9 countries\. http://openehr.jp/news/show/10 We would also like to have a pan\-pacific meeting\. --- ## Post #40 by @Vanna +1 for Japan. Video recording of the conference will be much appreciated, though live streaming is much more exciting. Regards, Kruy Vanna Graduate School of Global Information and Telecommunication Studies, Waseda University - - - - - - - - - - - - - [http://kvanna.multiply.com](http://kvanna.multiply.com) [http://vannit.blogspot.com](http://vannit.blogspot.com) --- ## Post #41 by @Tim_Cook2 I swore I wasn't going to respond to this; but\.\.\.\.\.\.\.\.\.\.\.\.\. While most of openEHR is Euro\-centric\. The reality is that the most obvious place \( outside of Asia\) is to hold it in Natal, BR http://preview.tinyurl.com/3w54c It is close to everywhere \(in relative terms\) It is beautiful; year round\. From hiking to scuba\.\.\.\. you can enjoy\. I've enjoyed Stockholm, Amsterdam and many other places\. But they are so often weather dependent\. Natal is closest to Africa/Europe in the Americas\. It's not AS green of a trip as Tom wants\. But are we really talking about a global community? Okay, we have a great opensource community \(by law\) here\. Google FISL and PythonBrasil\.\.\.\.\.\.\. Has YOUR President ever spoke at a free software conference? \-\-Tim --- ## Post #42 by @Tim_Cook2 Hmmmmm, okay\.\.\.\.\.\.\. BIG Picture here \(do we have everyone's attention\) not just the US and Western Europe? The reality is that Europe nor North America is the center of the world\. Certainly population wise\. While as a native US Citizen and a retired US Marine\. I believe that I have served my country and the democratic free world well\. Certainly; every single day with the weight upon my heart that I was doing the RIGHT THING\. Some may not agree with that and I respect their opinions\. But without regard to religion and only humanitarian results\. I STAND BY MY DECISIONS\! I spoke recently with Sam Heard and I am not sure where they \(there was a closed door meeting\) want to take the openEHR Foundation\. It \*\*IS\*\* clear to me that they are confused about opensource/opencontent\. \*\*THEY\*\* need to communicate with the community\. Not this one on one crap meeting stuff\. I'm frankly quite tired of it after almost 10 years\. I hope that you all can engage them and give them a CLUE\! \-\-Tim --- ## Post #43 by @Tim_Cook2 Well, see how well these Web 2\.0 things work????? :\-\) Here is the entire URL: http://maps.google.com.br/maps?q=natal \+br&oe=utf\-8&rls=com\.ubuntu:en\-US:official&client=firefox\-a&um=1&ie=UTF\-8&hq=&hnear=Natal\+\-\+RN&gl=br&ei=qZQWS6q6HZLOlAen\_riRDw&sa=X&oi=geocode\_result&ct=title&resnum=1&ved=0CA8Q8gEwAA If that doesn't work\.\.\.\.you are all smart enough to Google Natal, Rio Grandge do Norte, Brasil\. You'll figure it out\. If not\.\.\.\.well, you are on the wrong mailing list anyway\!\!\!\!\!\!\! :\-\) \-\-Tim --- ## Post #44 by @thomas.beale Hi Tim, I am wondering if I missed a post somewhere here? Anyway, with respect to things like open content and copyrighting, the discussion has been as open as it can be as far as I can see; it looks as if the archetypes will move to use a CC-BY+/-SA licence. The openEHR software is open source under the Mozilla tri-licence, I don't know if anyone thinks this should change (I have not heard anyone asking for that so far). At a more strategic level, there is a relationship with IHTSDO, which is starting to shape thinking about how to improve governance and funding in openEHR. I have also seen proposals for openEHR to move to being an association with paying membership, like W3C and OMG. It certainly needs a funding source, and although many governments want to use it, there are no obvious cooperative funding structures yet in place in this area. But to my knowledge there is nothing secret going on behind closed doors - I think if you or anyone else wants particular improvements in governance or some other aspect of the organisation, please feel free to say what you want, the lists are always open after all ;-) - thomas beale Tim Cook wrote: [details="(attachments)"] ![OceanC\_small.png|74x72](upload://5I367QG2SMJUp18Pt3jF6yz13Ey.png) [/details] --- ## Post #45 by @thomas.beale Brazil entered my mind as well. But I had not thought of going that far away from Rio & SP; but you are right - if you look on the map, it is not too many hours flight from east coast US or most of Europe. The down side seems to be that there are no direct flights from London, which probably means the same for most other European countries ; only Lisbon has direct flights. But it does seem like an interesting candidate location. - thomas Tim Cook wrote: [details="(attachments)"] ![OceanC\_small.png|74x72](upload://5I367QG2SMJUp18Pt3jF6yz13Ey.png) [/details] --- ## Post #46 by @Tim_Cook2 Only my suggestio\. I have nothing else to say on the matter\. If it is not in SA; I will not attend w/o funding\. The life of a lone consultant prevails\.\.\.\. :\-\) \-\-Tim --- ## Post #47 by @Dr_Carola_Hullin_Luc Dear All, I believe the following point and I strongly encourage ACTION as soon as possible: 1. Governance of openEHR is not clear to all the community 1. Communication with all members is broad and requires some leadership 1. The foundation lidership group sits in few people and the process to select them is not explicit 1. Example of Medinfo 2010 collaboration can be used to avoid confusion 1. At present ocean informatics is seem to be the leader in the market and it is a good thing. At the same time the foundation should guide its members to the health sector and encourage competition 1. The members are volunteer and need some incentives to keep collaborating : trust is a good thing. 1. We need leadership space where anyone can participate with a democratic guidelines 1. The first congress of openEHR should be somewhere where the members are closed by. It is bad luck for us in the south * since the attendance will be low due to funding sources, but the foundation should provide some funding to people like TIm and others working so hard alone and in the limited resources environments. I encourange strongly an annual meeting and allow new members to engage. At present the knowledge sits with the founders and maner to transfer to society remains uncertan due to the lack of resources. Government wants to engage with openEHR but the mechanism remains unclear. Cheers Carol **Dr. Carola Hullin Lucay Cossio** **Santiago Chile** **Melbourne- Australia** --- **Canonical:** https://discourse.openehr.org/t/informal-poll-openehr-conference/14943 **Original content:** https://discourse.openehr.org/t/informal-poll-openehr-conference/14943